From: zzz.zzz@qqq.net   
      
   Lawrence Logic wrote:   
   > Around the time that Richard Dawkins got together with Mrs Garrison, one of   
   > the regulars posted something about Dawkins being a bit of an idiot.  I'd   
   > never actually heard of him at that point, but I downloaded a lecture a   
   > couple of weeks ago and found it very amusing and educational.   
   >   
   > Over the weekend, I watched five DVD's of Dawkins and I now reckon he's   
   > wonderful.  It was all "retarded fish-frog" stuff and everything seemed to   
   > make perfect sense.   
   >   
   > Does anyone here like him or loathe him sufficiently to comment?   
   >   
   > If you loathe him, is there a particular reason why?   
      
   You see, there is no real reason to "loathe" Dawkins unless one is a   
   member of your typical "real American" redneck who is hopelessly unable   
   to think for himself and has to rely on what he believes are "news"   
   sources such as Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter, Kristol, Beck, as   
   well as the endless procession of religion peddlers of all sorts.   
   Combine this constant crypto-fascist propaganda with the rampant and   
   ever increasing anti-intellectualism in today's USA and the result is   
   the endless assault on reason, education, intellect, academia and   
   science, that is primarily conducted by attacks on persons, as opposed   
   to attacking their positions and opinions.   
   In the case of Dawkins, who like many other prominent atheists seems to   
   be a constant thorn in the religious fanatics' paws, they will   
   inevitably throw in a completely idiotic misrepresentation of atheism as   
   "religion", so that they can then proceed to burn that straw man as   
   well. After all, it would be utterly ludicrous to accuse someone of   
   being a fanatic for a non-belief, but if you "clevelry" reclassify his   
   non-belief into the polar opposite of what it is, you can then fling   
   your arguments like a retarded monkey flings turds and none is the   
   wiser. None with an IQ of more than 10, that is.   
      
   For a case in point, see a response from Reaper G in this newsgroup.   
      
   Apparently, Dawkins is "as nutty as any other Bible-thumper or   
   jihadist", but of course, we'll get no arguments whatsoever to justify   
   how he is "as nutty", why, in what respect, not to mention the sheer   
   absurdity of comparing one of the leading British intellectuals to a   
   horde of Islamic fanatics. We'll just have to accept that he's nutty -   
   after all, South Park says so, and like Jesus is G.W.Bush's favorite   
   philosopher, South Park is the same to some people here. Welcome to   
   America's culture.   
   	   
   Then he'll follow it up with what is either a complete lack of   
   understanding of how ideas work or a shitty but sly attempt to debase   
   his position on religion: "the idea that the world would be better   
   without religion is just as realistic as the Easter Bunny"   
      
   The "idea" of the World being better off without religion has nothing to   
   do with reality - it is a claim that can either be argued or taken at   
   face value. Whether it can ever be implemented is irrelevant to its   
   premise. But don't tell Reaper G that - why confuse someone with facts?   
   Why bother arguing something with a person who declares Dawkins "nutty"   
   without having a decency to maybe first read some of his books on the   
   matter and then form an educated opinion? Would it make any difference   
   to those people to point out the sheer body count that resulted in all   
   the religious and pseudo-religious wars throughout history, as well as   
   the constant suppression of thought, science and progress that continues   
   to this day, from "Intelligent Design" peddlers in the US to the utter   
   illiteracy and general backwardness of every Muslim country where church   
   rules the state?   
   No, Dawkins nutty, four legs good, two legs bad, war is peace, freedom   
   is slavery, ignorance is strength.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
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