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   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Tim Bruening wrote:   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
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   >>>>>>> I have figured out what Spock should have done:  Romulus was   
   >>>>>>> threatened by a supernova.  Old Spock sought to save Romulus by   
   >>>>>>> generating a black hole (using a black hole machine stolen from   
   >>>>>>> the Vulcan Science Academy)   
   >>>>>>> to absorb the star, but was a smidge late in arriving on the   
   >>>>>>> scence. AT   
   >>>>>>> THAT point (before doing anything else), Old Spock should have   
   >>>>>>> simply rushed to the nearest intact star, whipped around it at   
   >>>>>>> Warp 8 to go back in time a few days or weeks, then black holed   
   >>>>>>> the culprit star BEFORE it went supernova!  This would have   
   >>>>>>> saved Romulus and not generated an alternate timeline!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What you've 'figured out' was pretty much implicit in your other   
   >>>>>> postings and the follow-ups to them, but you're absolutely right.   
   >>>>>> That is the way Spock could have saved Romulus and negated the   
   >>>>>> plot line of (new) Star Trek.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Now here's an interesting exercise. Go back and watch every   
   >>>>>> episode of TOS,   
   >>>>>> TAS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise, and the movies prior to   
   >>>>>> this one, with the possible exception of IV. For each episode or   
   >>>>>> movie, every time there's a death, or something blows up, or   
   >>>>>> something threatens the galaxy,   
   >>>>>> figure out which character should use the warp-around-a-star   
   >>>>>> method to undo   
   >>>>>> what's happened, how much he or she should undo, and what the   
   >>>>>> resultant outcome will be. Write each scenario down in a little   
   >>>>>> essay.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Picard, Sisko, and Janeway might not have been informed of the   
   >>>>> warp around a sun   
   >>>>> method for reason of temporal security, and Archer would not know   
   >>>>> of it, since   
   >>>>> its after his time!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Don't you remember the hissy-fit Bones had about how dangerous that   
   >>>> was? That may be why it's not standard procedure.   
   >>>   
   >>> IMHO, saving a planet from a supernova or a black hole is well worth   
   >>> the risk!   
   >>   
   >> But what if, whilst saving the one planet, you cause two other   
   >> planets to die a couple of centuries later?   
   >> If changes in the past don't cause an alternate universe and you   
   >> have only one to work with, mucking about in the past is something   
   >> that needs careful planning.   
   >   
   > I fail to see how saving Vulcan could lead to the destruction of two   
   > other planets 200 years later.  I suppose that one could argue that   
   > the Romulans might destroy planets if their own planet is saved, but   
   > I find that type of argument strained, and surely there are less   
   > drastic ways to save the possible future victims of the Romulans!   
      
   All I'm saying is that one should be careful. It's like a game of mikado.   
      
      
   --   
   Wouter Valentijn www.j3v.net   
      
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   make out with each other.   
   Xander: Well maybe that's wrong with the world. Ever think about that?   
      
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