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From: j.clarke.873638@gmail.com
In article ,
anim8rfsk@cox.net says...
>
> In article , Obveeus
> wrote:
>
> > On 6/26/2017 7:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> > > On 6/26/2017 4:29 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 6/26/2017 7:01 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > >>> In article ,
> > >>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 6/26/2017 3:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > >>>>> In article ,
> > >>>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 6/26/2017 2:03 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
> > >>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that
> > >>>>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Another Reboot. That much is certain.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Just the opposite. They announced that Discovery is supposed to be
> > >>>>>>> set in the classic ??Prime???1?2? timeline.
That?? why
> > >>>>>>> doing what
> > >>>>>>> they??e
> > >>>>>>> doing is problematic well beyond any cries of racism or other
> > >>>>>>> intolerance. It was problematic when they did the same thing with
> > >>>>>>> Enterprise. It?? just dumb to depict things 10 or 100
years
> > >>>>>>> prior to
> > >>>>>>> Kirk as being more advanced than what even Picard had just
> > >>>>>>> because our
> > >>>>>>> tech has taken off in the present. It certainly *should* have
> > >>>>>>> been a
> > >>>>>>> reboot.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Either that or, like I?? sure I?綮e said before,
someone
> > >>>>>>> needs to sit
> > >>>>>>> down with all the property in the franchise and work out a fully
> > >>>>>>> coherent continuity. One that they can stick to for all *future*
> > >>>>>>> production as well, of course. All this piecemeal shit has become
a
> > >>>>>>> real anchor around the neck of the Trek universe.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The "creative" types would hate that. They want to be able to put
> > >>>>>> their
> > >>>>>> own stamp on it without being "hampered" by being consistent with
> > >>>>>> what
> > >>>>>> others have done. Why do you think Abrams burned the whole thing
> > >>>>>> to the
> > >>>>>> ground and started over from scratch? Why do you think every other
> > >>>>>> Superman or Spiderman movie is a reboot, origin story? Because the
> > >>>>>> "creatives" want it to be _their_ vision that controls.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> That's partly it. You've also got the part where the "creatives"
> > >>>>> won't
> > >>>>> (some say can't) read the source material, and nowadays won't watch
> > >>>>> source material. Brannon Braga was apparently proud of having never
> > >>>>> seen an episode of real Trek, which is how he ended up writing
Zephram
> > >>>>> Cochrane as a black woman.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> I think the "won't read/view source material" is part of their
> > >>>> egotistic
> > >>>> "I can do it better! if you just don't bother me with the truth"
> > >>>> problem. So the two are sides of the same metaphorical coin.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Plus there's the whole "I'll sue you if you ever read or watch
> > >>>> something
> > >>>> of mine and then ever in your life make something I can claim was
> > >>>> unconsciously influenced by my work!" thing.
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, yeah, but refusing to watch an ep of Trek when you're making
> > >>> eps of Trek ...
> > >>
> > >> Alternatively, Simon Pegg is a huge TREK fan and he put all kinds of
> > >> stuff into the film to make TREK fans happy and they still complained.
> > >
> > > He didn't get rid of the Abrams stink....
> >
> > The third entry in the series was much better than the second. The only
> > real stink in it was a bunch of stupid motorcycle stuff. Of course, I'm
> > dreading the fourth film somewhat because I'm not looking forward to
> > Chekov getting run over by the ship and written off.
>
> You're honestly the first person I've heard rate BEYOND any better than
> 'worst of series, crime against humanity'
>
> Even the people that actually watched it felt that way.
I gave up on it after they destroyed yet another Enterprise. You'd think
that having lost so many ships with that name, the Federation would take
the hint.
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