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   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 27-6-2017 om 15:45 schreef The Last Doctor:   
   > Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:21:41 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>> liam@valentijn.nu wrote:   
   >>>>> Op 26-6-2017 om 19:46 schreef Ubiquitous:   
   >>>>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> I wonder if the reason women are forbidden to command a starship in   
   >>>>>>> Krik's era has anything to do with the disaster that is brewing for   
   >>>>>>> this series.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Didn't we learn anything from Voyager?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Voyager had issues orbiting issues. The gender of Janeway was not part   
   >>>>> of that. It was the writers. They failed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If memory serves, they made a big deal about having a female captain   
   >>>   
   >>> The PR push was annoying, but they didn't have to upend anything to   
   >>> write the character.  At least the timeline worked. Kirk says that   
   >>> women are forbidden to captain a sharship 10 years after Discover   
   >>> takes place. Not a problem for Voyager.   
   >>   
   >> But that wasn't the point. the point is they made a big deal about finally   
   >> having a female Captain and she was a miserable failure, proving the point   
   of   
   >> them not allowing female captains.   
   >>   
   >   
   > They'd had female captains before though - Uhura even had the conn of the   
   > Enterprise in a TAS episode. The captain of the Saratoga in STIV, the   
   > captain of the Enterprise C - even Troi managed not to make a total pigs   
   > ear of it the one time she got command. Alongside Voyager, Dax was known to   
   > command the Defiant...   
   >   
   > ...and of course, Janice Lester's outburst was then retconned away in   
   > Enterprise. If Earth ships in Archer's time could have female captains,   
   > surely the touchy-feely Federation   
   > that followed it wouldn't go backwards in this regard. We just didn't   
   > happen to see one onscreen in TOS, Lester was 17 bananas short of a bunch   
   > and Kirk was just humouring her.   
   >   
      
   Totally outside of official canon the web series Star Trek Continues had   
   an episode about this, guest starring Clare Kramer. The reason,   
   according to that story, was that the Tellarites were the problem within   
   the UFP. Being male chauvinist pigs. ;-)   
      
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