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   Message 3,846 of 5,051   
   Wouter Valentijn to All   
   Re: Star Trek: Discovery star replies to   
   28 Jun 17 19:29:57   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv, alt.startrek, rec.arts.startrek.current   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv   
   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 27-6-2017 om 20:30 schreef anim8rfsk:   
   > In article <59529e91$0$783$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,   
   >  Wouter Valentijn  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Op 27-6-2017 om 15:45 schreef The Last Doctor:   
   >>> Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:21:41 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>>>> liam@valentijn.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Op 26-6-2017 om 19:46 schreef Ubiquitous:   
   >>>>>>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I wonder if the reason women are forbidden to command a starship in   
   >>>>>>>>> Krik's era has anything to do with the disaster that is brewing for   
   >>>>>>>>> this series.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Didn't we learn anything from Voyager?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Voyager had issues orbiting issues. The gender of Janeway was not part   
   >>>>>>> of that. It was the writers. They failed.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> If memory serves, they made a big deal about having a female captain   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The PR push was annoying, but they didn't have to upend anything to   
   >>>>> write the character.  At least the timeline worked. Kirk says that   
   >>>>> women are forbidden to captain a sharship 10 years after Discover   
   >>>>> takes place. Not a problem for Voyager.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But that wasn't the point. the point is they made a big deal about finally   
   >>>> having a female Captain and she was a miserable failure, proving the point   
   >>>> of   
   >>>> them not allowing female captains.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> They'd had female captains before though - Uhura even had the conn of the   
   >>> Enterprise in a TAS episode. The captain of the Saratoga in STIV, the   
   >>> captain of the Enterprise C - even Troi managed not to make a total pigs   
   >>> ear of it the one time she got command. Alongside Voyager, Dax was known to   
   >>> command the Defiant...   
   >>>   
   >>> ...and of course, Janice Lester's outburst was then retconned away in   
   >>> Enterprise. If Earth ships in Archer's time could have female captains,   
   >>> surely the touchy-feely Federation   
   >>> that followed it wouldn't go backwards in this regard. We just didn't   
   >>> happen to see one onscreen in TOS, Lester was 17 bananas short of a bunch   
   >>> and Kirk was just humouring her.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Totally outside of official canon the web series Star Trek Continues had   
   >> an episode about this, guest starring Clare Kramer.   
   >   
   > As Glory!!!   
   >   
      
   Now that would make one fine story! :-P   
      
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   Wouter Valentijn www.j3v.net   
      
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