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   From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 27-6-2017 om 22:40 schreef A Friend:   
   > In article ,   
   > anim8rfsk  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In article <270620171119107365%nope@noway.com>,   
   >>  A Friend  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In article , The Last Doctor   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >>>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:21:41 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>>>>> liam@valentijn.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Op 26-6-2017 om 19:46 schreef Ubiquitous:   
   >>>>>>>>> starfist@gmail.invalid wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I wonder if the reason women are forbidden to command a starship in   
   >>>>>>>>>> Krik's era has anything to do with the disaster that is brewing for   
   >>>>>>>>>> this series.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Didn't we learn anything from Voyager?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Voyager had issues orbiting issues. The gender of Janeway was not   
   >>>>>>>> part   
   >>>>>>>> of that. It was the writers. They failed.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> If memory serves, they made a big deal about having a female captain   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The PR push was annoying, but they didn't have to upend anything to   
   >>>>>> write the character.  At least the timeline worked. Kirk says that   
   >>>>>> women are forbidden to captain a sharship 10 years after Discover   
   >>>>>> takes place. Not a problem for Voyager.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But that wasn't the point. the point is they made a big deal about   
   >>>>> finally   
   >>>>> having a female Captain and she was a miserable failure, proving the   
   >>>>> point   
   >>>>> of   
   >>>>> them not allowing female captains.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> They'd had female captains before though - Uhura even had the conn of the   
   >>>> Enterprise in a TAS episode. The captain of the Saratoga in STIV, the   
   >>>> captain of the Enterprise C - even Troi managed not to make a total pigs   
   >>>> ear of it the one time she got command. Alongside Voyager, Dax was known   
   >>>> to   
   >>>> command the Defiant...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...and of course, Janice Lester's outburst was then retconned away in   
   >>>> Enterprise. If Earth ships in Archer's time could have female   
   >>>> captains, surely the touchy-feely Federation that followed it   
   >>>> wouldn't go backwards in this regard.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Why not?  Archer's Enterprise (and Hernandez's Columbia) were   
   >>   
   >> constructs in a badly plotted and researched holonovel.   
   >   
   >   
   > "Never give up!  Never surrender!"   
   >   
      
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