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From: fakename@nomail.invalid
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 6/26/2017 4:29 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/26/2017 7:01 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/26/2017 3:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>>>> In article ,
>>>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/26/2017 2:03 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>>>>>> For your reference, records indicate that
>>>>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another Reboot. That much is certain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just the opposite. They announced that Discovery is supposed to
>>>>>>> be set in the classic Ā?č£?PrimeĀ?ļæ½Ā timeline. ThatĀ?č"s why
>>>>>>> doing what
>>>>>>> theyĀ?č"re
>>>>>>> doing is problematic well beyond any cries of racism or other
>>>>>>> intolerance. It was problematic when they did the same thing with
>>>>>>> Enterprise. ItĀ?č"s just dumb to depict things 10 or 100 years
>>>>>>> prior to
>>>>>>> Kirk as being more advanced than what even Picard had just because
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> tech has taken off in the present. It certainly *should* have
>>>>>>> been a reboot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either that or, like IĀ?č"m sure IĀ?č"ve said before, someone
>>>>>>> needs to sit
>>>>>>> down with all the property in the franchise and work out a fully
>>>>>>> coherent continuity. One that they can stick to for all *future*
>>>>>>> production as well, of course. All this piecemeal shit has
>>>>>>> become a real anchor around the neck of the Trek universe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "creative" types would hate that. They want to be able to put
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own stamp on it without being "hampered" by being consistent with
>>>>>> what others have done. Why do you think Abrams burned the whole
>>>>>> thing to the
>>>>>> ground and started over from scratch? Why do you think every other
>>>>>> Superman or Spiderman movie is a reboot, origin story? Because the
>>>>>> "creatives" want it to be _their_ vision that controls.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's partly it. You've also got the part where the "creatives"
>>>>> won't (some say can't) read the source material, and nowadays won't
>>>>> watch source material. Brannon Braga was apparently proud of
>>>>> having never seen an episode of real Trek, which is how he ended up
>>>>> writing Zephram Cochrane as a black woman.
>>>>>
>>>> I think the "won't read/view source material" is part of their
>>>> egotistic "I can do it better! if you just don't bother me with the
>>>> truth" problem. So the two are sides of the same metaphorical coin.
>>>>
>>>> Plus there's the whole "I'll sue you if you ever read or watch
>>>> something of mine and then ever in your life make something I can
>>>> claim was unconsciously influenced by my work!" thing.
>>>
>>> Well, yeah, but refusing to watch an ep of Trek when you're making eps
>>> of Trek ...
>>
>> Alternatively, Simon Pegg is a huge TREK fan and he put all kinds of
>> stuff into the film to make TREK fans happy and they still complained.
>
> He didn't get rid of the Abrams stink....
Nothing can get rid of the Abrams stink.
RIP - Trek
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