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   Message 4,127 of 5,051   
   Jim G. to All   
   Re: Tarantino's Star Trek Will Be Pulp F   
   21 Jul 19 15:33:53   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv   
   From: jimgysin@geemail.com.invalid   
      
   Ubiquitous sent the following on 7/19/19 at 8:05 PM:   
   > Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is hitting theaters next weekend. It   
   > serves as Quentin Tarantino's 9th film as a director, and it could be   
   > his last original work. When his promotional tour is over, he is   
   > turning his attentions to Star Trek with an original idea that he   
   > conceived and turned into JJ. Abrams. He still doesn't know if he will   
   > direct it,   
      
   Translation: he still doesn't know if desperate Paramount is able and   
   willing to pay the price that he's asking.   
      
   > but if he does, it will be his final movie as a director. It   
   > will also be rated R.   
      
   There's a shocker.   
      
   > Contrary to belief, he is also referring to it as   
   > Pulp Fiction in space.   
      
   He should just say "I have no range" and be done with it.   
      
   > Quentin Tarantino is a little upset with Simon Pegg, who plays Scotty   
   > in the new movie franchise version of Star Trek. About being Pulp   
   > Fiction in space, or what some are calling The Wild Bunch in space, the   
   > filmmaker says this.   
   >   
   >      "I don't know if I'll do it or not. I've got to figure it out, but   
   > [Mark L. Smith] wrote a really cool script. I like it a lot. There's   
   > some things I need to work on but I really, really liked it. I get   
   > annoyed at Simon Pegg.   
      
   Wow. I agree with QT about something.   
      
   > He doesn't know anything about what's going on   
   > and he keeps making all these comments as if he knows about stuff.   
      
   Well, that's gonna be a fun set if they do a movie together.   
      
   > One   
   > of the comments he said, he's like "Well, look, it's not going to be   
   > Pulp Fiction in space." Yes, it is! [laughs hard]. If I do it, that's   
   > exactly what it'll be. It'll be Pulp Fiction in space. That Pulp   
   > Fiction-y aspect, when I read the script, I felt, I have never read a   
   > science fiction movie that has this sh*t in it, ever. There's no   
   > science fiction movie that has this in it. And they said, I know,   
   > that's why we want to make it. It's, at the very least, unique in that   
   > regard."   
      
   And sometimes the reason why something has never been done before is   
   because everyone else realizes that it would be a stupid thing to do.   
      
   > It isn't known if Simon Pegg will return to play Scotty in this   
   > iteration of the Sci-Fi drama, but the movie could harken back to one   
   > of the series greatest original episodes. In Season 2, Episode 7,   
   > titled "A Piece of the Action", Spock and Kirk get to become gangsters   
   > when they discover a remote world that looks like 1920's Chicago.   
   > Tarantino says this about bringing some of those elements back, which   
   > also ties into his history with Pulp Fiction.   
   >   
   >      "...There is a gangster element to what we're doing with the Star   
   > Trek thing that works out pretty good."   
      
   There's another shocker.   
      
   > The movie is definitely being written as an R-Rated adult version of   
   > the franchise. But that might not mean what many immediately perceive   
   > it too mean. About making an R-Rated Star Trek movie, Tarantino says   
   > this.   
   >   
   >      "I just don't think it's that big of a deal but if I'm going to do   
   > it, then I'm going to do it my way.   
      
   This is why Paramount needs to just walk away. They probably won't, but   
   they should.   
      
   > If you've seen my nine movies, you   
   > kind of know my way is an R-rated way and a way that is without certain   
   > restrictions. So that goes part and parcel. I think it would be more   
   > controversial if I said I'm going to do a PG movie and it's going to   
   > fit exactly in the universe. It's not me. What the f*ck am I doing? I   
   > mean I didn't even do that when I did that CSI episode.   
   >   
   >      The thing is, when I talked to JJ about it, it's not that radical.   
   > We're just not worrying about stuff like that. JJ said, "Quentin, I   
   > love this idea because I think with Star Trek we can go any way we want   
   > to."   
      
   The blind leading the blind...   
      
   > Look, I've got a situation. As long as Paramount likes the idea   
   > and the script they almost got nothing to lose right now when it comes   
   > to Star Trek. Deadpool showed that you can rethink these things, do   
   > them in a different way. So really, even before JJ knew what the idea   
   > was, his feeling was, if it wants to be an R rating, fine. If it wants   
   > to be the Wild Bunch in space, fine.   
   >   
   > In terms of using any of the original cast in his Star Trek, it almost   
   > sounds like Tarantino may be leaning towards bringing William Shatner   
   > back as Captain Kirk.   
   >   
   >      "I'm a big fan of the show Star Trek. I really like it a lot, but   
   > my portal into that show is William Shatner. I love William Shatner on   
   > Star Trek. I love his performance as James T. Kirk. That is my   
   > connection. That is my umbilical cord. It's why I like Star Trek more   
   > than Star Wars, because William Shatner's not in Star Wars. I think   
   > it's one of the greatest performances in the history of episodic   
   > television, of a series lead, and rightly so, because very few series   
   > leads have ever gotten the opportunity to play all the different wild,   
   > crazy things. "The Enemy Within" alone..."   
   >   
   > Even if William Shatner doesn't come back, it sounds like Tarantino is   
   > keen on using Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto's versions of Kirk and   
   > Spock. He goes onto say this.   
   >   
   >      "So that's why I actually really was so taken with JJ Abrams' first   
   > reboot and how fantastic I thought Chris Pine channeled William   
   > Shatner. He didn't go a serious actor-y way. He said, well no, I'm   
   > going to do my own thing. He's playing the William Shatner version of   
   > Kirk and he's doing a fantastic job at it. I mean perfect, frankly.   
      
   Okay, so I agree with QT on *two* things.   
      
   > And   
   > [Zachary] Quinto is perfect as Spock. Those two guys, they f*cking got   
   > it."   
      
   Meh. They could've done far worse on the Spock front, but he's not in   
   Pine's league, IMO.   
      
   --   
   Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre   
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   mustn't kill anyone." -- Carolyn Martens, KILLING EVE   
      
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