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On 2025-01-09 4:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Ubiquitous wrote:
>> The fourth and final Star Trek: The Next Generation movie, Star Trek:
>> Nemesis, put a nail in the coffin of what wasat the timea dying Star
Trek
>> franchise. Star Trek: Nemesis saw Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart)
>> confront a younger clone of himself,
>
> That doesn’t look anything like him
>
>
> Shinzon (Tom Hardy), who had been
>> created by Romulans to secretly replace Picard.
>
> Who he doesn’t look anything like
>
>
> Shinzon had been discarded to
>> the mines of Remus
>
> Hey! Look! They got the name of the planet wrong!
>
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Romulan Empire centered on two
planets, Romulus and Remus, which (probably not coincidentally) are the
names of the founder of Ancient Rome here on Earth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus
I haven't seen all of the movies or all of the series but isn't a two
planet base for the Romulan Empire mentioned in one of them? Or am I
muddling mythology and Star Trek lore?
>
> before becoming the new Romulan Praetor to exact his
>> revenge. Star Trek: Nemesis' subplot featured the discovery of B-4 (Brent
>
> It took Spiner almost 37 seconds to come up with the name of that
> character, but he did break for coffee in the middle of that.
>
>
>> Spiner), an inferior Soong-type android built before Lt. Commander Data
>> (Brent Spiner).
>>
>> In theory, Star Trek: Nemesis' high-stakes cinematic action, with a
>> screenplay and story by Academy Award-nominated John Logan with Brent
Spiner,
>> was designed to draw casual moviegoers. Further, Star Trek: Nemesis' themes
>> of identity and duality in its Picard and Data storylines were supposed to
>> create that cerebral Star Trek touch. In practice, Star Trek: Nemesis fell
>> apart by packing its 1 hour and 57 minute runtime with more style than
>> substance. Star Trek: Insurrection's lukewarm reception soured suits on
>> Jonathan Frakes taking the helm again, but franchise newcomer Stuart Baird
>> directed Nemesis like a Star Trek movie that was afraid to be Star Trek,
>> leaving Star Trek: The Next Generation's beloved ensemble rudderless and
>> inconsistent.
>>
>> Star Trek: Nemesis Ending Explained
>> Captain Picard And Lt. Commander Data Team Up To Destroy Shinzon
>> Star Trek: Nemesis ends with a face-off between the USS Enterprise-E and
>> Shinzon's massive starship, the Scimitar. Shinzon vowed to take revenge by
>> using deadly thalaron radiation to wipe out all life on Earth, which the
>> Enterprise must prevent at all costs. Romulan Commander Donatra (Dina Meyer)
>> arrives to help the Enterprise, not Shinzon, citing "internal security".
>> While the Scimitar is distracted by Donatra's Warbirds, Counselor Deanna
Troi
>> (Marina Sirtis) empathically locates Shinzon's cloaked ship, and opens fire.
>> The Enterprise is outgunned, however, and Remans board the ship to seize
what
>> Shinzon truly wants: Captain Picard.
>>
>> There have been thirteen Star Trek movies over the last 40 years, but which
>> is the boldest big-screen adventure to go where no man has gone before?
>>
>> Rather than suffer more casualties, Picard yields to Reman capture,
>
> Because that’s what Picard does best. Surrender.
>
>
> while
>> Data crosses the space between the Enterprise and Scimitar's open hulls. As
>> the thalaron emitter charges, Shinzon and Jean-Luc meet in single combat,
>> with Picard victoriously spearing Shinzon, who's consumed by his own hubris.
>> Data places an emergency transport key on his captain and beams Picard back
>> to the Enterprise, before Data destroys the thalaraon emitter, sacrificing
>> himself in the process. Data's memory is celebrated on the Enterprise-E, and
>> Donatra promises Picard a friend in the Romulan Empire.
>>
>> Shinzon's determination to find and unleash the darkness in Picard's heart
is
>> his own downfall,
>>
>> At the end of Star Trek: Nemesis, Shinzon's determination to find and
unleash
>> the darkness in Picard's heart is his own downfall. Shinzon and Picard share
>> DNA and a sense of justice for the downtrodden, but Shinzon insists that
>> Jean-Luc would be as megalomaniacal as Shinzon is had Picard also been
raised
>> in the darkness of the Reman mines. Picard's equally steadfast insistence
>> that Shinzon is capable of doing good only proves how alike they are,
instead
>> of supporting the movie's stated point that their backgrounds make them
>> different.
>>
>> At the end of Star Trek: Nemesis, Lieutenant Commander Data heroically
>> sacrifices himself to destroy Shinzon's thalaron emitter and save all life
on
>> Earth. Data's act of bravery ensures the Federation's survival, but
>> ultimately contributes to Star Trek: Nemesis' reputation as a franchise-
>> killer. Compared to Spock's (Leonard Nimoy) death in Star Trek II: The Wrath
>> of Khan, Data's death rings hollow. Unlike The Wrath of Khan building to
>> Spock's sacrifice, Nemesis doesn't have a narrative throughline that
supports
>> Data's decision, and his replacement is already lined up in B-4.
>>
>> Datas death in Star Trek: Nemesis was supposed to provide the film with an
>> emotional climax, but it was an unworthy end to a much beloved character.
>>
>> Brent Spiner co-wrote Star Trek: Nemesis' story with John Logan, creating
his
>> own graceful exit from Star Trek by killing off Data. As an android, Data
>> wasn't supposed to age, and Spiner's advancing years were becoming more
>> difficult to mask with Data's makeup. Star Trek: Nemesis ended with B-4 in
>> possession of Data's memories on the USS Enterprise-E, however, leaving the
>> door open for Spiner's return in a future Star Trek: The Next Generation
>> movie.
>>
>> Star Trek: Nemesis set up a potential fifth Star Trek: The Next Generation
>> movie that never happened. Conceptualized by Nemesis screenwriter John Logan
>> and Brent Spiner, the final TNG movie would have been a crossover between
>> Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and Star Trek:
>> Voyager. Characters from all three TNG-era Star Trek series were slated to
>> join forces against a massive threat that only a team-up between Star Trek's
>> finest could thwart.
>
> OK, the characters in VOYAGER can be called many things but “finest“ is
> definitely not one of them.
>
>
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