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   On 2025-01-09 10:23 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   > anim8rfsk  wrote:   
   >> Rhino  wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-01-09 4:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:   
   >>>> Ubiquitous  wrote:   
   >>>>> The fourth and final Star Trek: The Next Generation movie, Star Trek:   
   >>>>> Nemesis, put a nail in the coffin of what was—at the time—a dying Star   
   Trek   
   >>>>> franchise. Star Trek: Nemesis saw Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick   
   Stewart)   
   >>>>> confront a younger clone of himself,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That doesn’t look anything like him   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Shinzon (Tom Hardy), who had been   
   >>>>> created by Romulans to secretly replace Picard.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Who he doesn’t look anything like   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Shinzon had been discarded to   
   >>>>> the mines of Remus   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hey! Look! They got the name of the planet wrong!   
   >>>>   
   >>> Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Romulan Empire centered on two   
   >>> planets, Romulus and Remus, which (probably not coincidentally) are the   
   >>> names of the founder of Ancient Rome here on Earth?   
   >>>   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romulus_and_Remus   
   >>>   
   >>> I haven't seen all of the movies or all of the series but isn't a two   
   >>> planet base for the Romulan Empire mentioned in one of them? Or am I   
   >>> muddling mythology and Star Trek lore?   
   >>   
   >> The first time we ever see the Romulans in Star Trek TOS “ Balance of   
   >> Terror“ we also see this map which subsequent tricks got wrong   
   >>   
   >> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSELhX7B   
   AKQfU2PsmyGRbkM_pXBALMXKlEsw&s   
   >>   
   >> Note that the name of the second planet is ROMII.   
   >>   
   >> “Remus“ is just another TNG mistake.   
   >>   
   >> There are multiple fan wanks for this. One is that Remus is the third   
   >> planet in the system. The one they don’t talk about. The other is that   
   >> Remus is an alternate name for Romii. But the real answer is the TNG just   
   >> got it wrong.   
   >   
   > The silliest thing about it all is that an alien civilization many light   
   > years from Earth just happened to name themselves and their planets after   
   > two characters from human mythology.   
      
   Actually, it's not that unreasonable if Romulus was the name given by   
   Federation explorers and NOT the name the Romulans used for themselves.   
   That kind of thing happens all the time here on Earth.   
      
   Germans don't call themselves Germans and they don't call their country   
   Germany: to the Germans, their country is Deutschland and they are   
   Deutsch, as is their language. It's the same with many native tribes   
   here in Canada. In BC for eexample, the European explorers and/or   
   settlers called each tribe something or another whose origin is not   
   clear to me but nowadays their activists insist on being called by the   
   name that they call themselves, which are usually unpronounceable in   
   English (at least to me). (This means we're probably offending them   
   further and contributing to their animosity by mispronouncing their   
   correct names.)   
      
   So maybe Romulans actually call themselves Flooglurk but translate it to   
   the Federation term when speaking English.   
      
   --   
   Rhino   
      
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