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   From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Mar 1, 2026 at 1:57:23 PM PST, "Lawrence DяOliveiro"    
   wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 1 Mar 2026 19:52:36 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 wrote:   
   >   
   >>  ... I have a sister who is alive today because she defended herself   
   >>  with a gun when she was attacked. And that she didn't freeze in fear   
   >>  for even a moment.   
   >   
   > That kind of thing is very rarely successful. Outside of a war zone,   
   > the vast majority of deployment of guns tend to end badly.   
   >   
   > In other words, for every one person like your sister, there are   
   > something like 30 dead bodies of those for whom things didn’t turn out   
   > quite so well ...   
      
   The number of successful defensive gun uses (DGUs) in America per year ranges   
   anywhere between 70,000 to 500,000, depending on the study, definitions, and   
   methodology (e.g., whether the gun is fired, brandished, or merely possessed),   
   but even just taking the low end, your claim doesn't hold water.   
      
   Even the rabidly anti-gun organization "Everytown for Gun Safety" had to admit   
   in 2025, after analyzing the 2019–2023 NCVS data, that there are at least   
   70,000 legitimate DGUs annually. If there are 30 dead people for every one of   
   those 70,000, that would mean almost a quarter million people are dying every   
   year trying to defend themselves with a gun.   
      
   That... isn't credible.   
      
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