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|    Florian Blaschke to David E. Milligan    |
|    Re: BtL -- Thoughts, Speculations, and Q    |
|    02 Dec 07 01:52:19    |
      From: ROCxolan@t-online.de              David E. Milligan wrote:       > When Xena was transported into Arminestra (more about THAT       > later), she was an old woman. But considering that people back then       > didn't live very long, and led *very* hard lives,              Neither of that is generally true. There were always some very old       people, like in every village, it's the high infant mortality that kept       the average age and life expectancy down. Also, people had more       children, so young people formed a much bigger part of the population.       Once you made it to adulthood, you had a fair chance to live long.              If you look at the population pyramid of a poor country, you'll see that       there are people above the age of 80.              Nor is it generally true that people led *very* hard lives in the past.       It depended on factors such as area, subsistence form, and social       status. In fertile areas, even farmers could lead relatively comfortable       lives. India has many quite fertile areas too, and in the country, many       still live like a thousand years ago. Those who were not farmers (and       Arminestra doesn't seem like a farmer) generally did not have to work       that hard, I'd say.              It is known from observations of hunter-gatherer tribes in modern times       that they have a lot of leisure. Three or four days a week is enough for       survival, and this doesn't include the nights anyway. In the High Middle       Ages, townspeople worked surprisingly few days in the year and week, and       hours in the day. Prehistorical Japan was so fertile that the indigenous       people could lead sedentary lives, at a time when they were still       hunterer-gatherers and did not practice farming.              Let's not forget that humans have been living as nomads for hundreds of       thousands of years, and as farmers for thousands of years. They have       been living in industrialised societies for not much more than a hundred       years, and in computerised societies for a few decades. Still, human       bodies have hardly changed since thousands of years. We have evolved for       living nomadic lives out in the wilderness first and foremost,       everything else is a secondary development whose ultimate benefit is       unclear.              When I became aware of this, I was very surprised myself. People in       highly industrialised societies, despite their vastly increased       education, resources, possibilities and choices, are not necessarily       healthier or lead easier lives. It seems to me often that despite our       wealth, we are poorer in the basic things that make life actually worth       living.              It may have become a cliché, but why are we so unhappy despite all the       abundance? Why do we have so long lives, but so little time?              Sorry, I'm getting into preaching mode.              > was about 50, more or less.              She could well have been a lot older, as a holy woman. Even if she lived       an ascetic life.              --              Florian       GGGHD, MWFA, HCNB              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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