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   From: jyanjyan@rocketmail.com   
      
   On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:43:29 -0700, John Ayres   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:13:22 -0700, John Ayres   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>Just trying to think on the safe side. Even though the Chinese may   
   >>have the very first, state sponsored, extraterrestrial space craft for   
   >>space flight, don't they have to get every thing in order, first,   
   >>before they decide to go out of the stratosphere?   
   >>   
   >>Don't they have to catalog and map every object they can that could   
   >>possibly collide with their space craft and dent or disable them?   
   >>Otherwise, their shiny new space craft could end up a twisted, mangled   
   >>piece of wreckage lying at the bottom of an ocean somewhere.   
   >>   
   >>Let's say, just to speculate, they have recently come out of the work   
   >>shed with their shiny new space craft. Now comes a period of labor   
   >>where they list and catalog everything so that they don't fly into it.   
   >>That would take considerable time, but to get out of this universe,   
   >>wouldn't they have to catalog everything out there, and then beyond to   
   >>as far out as where ever it is they're planning to go?   
   >>   
   >>Isn' that part of good seamanship? Making the maps to sail by?   
   >>   
   >>If they actually have got a space ship, it is going to take them   
   >>awhile to get enough cataloged, or mapped out, to allow them to even   
   >>go and visit Jupiter or Saturn, isn't it?   
   >>   
   >>I'm not a sailor, of course, but it seems good seamanship starts with   
   >>good charts, and good charts start with good knowledge. This could   
   >>take a very long time to get accomplished, couldn't it!   
   >>   
   >>They would need a fleet of ships working on it, just to get it   
   >>started. Oh well. Just some thoughts on the subject. I guess   
   >>everything needs to start somewhere.   
   >>   
   >>John Ayres   
   >   
   >Okay. You can all relax, now. It is going to be some time before the   
   >Chinese get to the next level where they have cataloged and mapped out   
   >enough for them to be able to exit the high earth orbit safely and   
   >head on out for a trip around the moon.   
   >   
   >Boy this business of mapping out the solar system and beyond is really   
   >going to be labor intensive. Maybe they should start thinking about   
   >collaborating with the Yanks, and others on this one.   
   >   
   >They're going to eventually need some pretty advanced systems to   
   >assist them.   
   >   
   >It sure would be handy if some of these others in our galaxy would   
   >give us a helping hand.   
   >   
   >By the way, you may say I'm dreaming, but it ain't so. I've seen two   
   >interplanetary vehicles in my life, and the last one, in 2005, was so   
   >awesome. No one can tell me they don't exist.   
   >   
   >John Ayres   
      
   Now that you think about it, these guys, no matter how sophisticated   
   the systems they've got, they do have the small problem of reliable   
   charts, maps, and so on, to be able to safely exit this planet, and   
   not end up a piece of shiny scrap metal on an ocean floor. They could   
   always leave, exit planet earth, but I don't know what the   
   probabilities would be that they would end up as scrap metal. It's a   
   little bit too risky playing with your life like that, just because   
   you don't have the charts for navigating out of this planet's   
   atmosphere safely.   
      
   It's like being stuck on a ship, say the santa maria, or one of the   
   other two that Columbus left for the new world in, and the size of   
   your "pond" may be sizebable, but you can't safely pull off the   
   objective maneuver of exiting the planet. So you are effectively stuck   
   in the "pond", say the Caspian sea for instance, and all you can do is   
   go around and around, practicing.   
      
   So the guy who pulled up to me and hoovered in his shiny new silver   
   metal space ship that glittered with the arching of violet to purple   
   electricity, thirty feet from me, with his incredible ship, unless he   
   can solve his delema, he is stuck flying within a safe range above the   
   planet, but below the crap that is floating around up above, all the   
   junk that NASA and other space agencies have left up there.   
      
   Until they get a system set up to help them with the cataloging and   
   mapping of every thing that is not tied down in our universe, if we   
   attempt to go anywhere, we're going to end up just like those poor   
   alien guys did, crash after crash.   
      
   Well, anyway, not the pleasantest of thoughts, but just something to   
   think about.   
      
   With the problem of your life at stake, it no longer becomes a matter   
   of how fast you can travel from point a to point b, but it becomes a   
   matter of good judgement and a reliable database of cataloged and   
   mapped objects that could flatten you like a pancake.   
      
   It's therefore better to take the time to map out every square inch of   
   our solar system, then galaxy, and so on, then to risk your life in no   
   matter how shiny, awesome, and cool a space ship.   
      
   No wonder so many sightings are of low flying UFO's, some of them not   
   moviing any faster than thirty to fifty miles an hour. Those   
   triangularly shaped ones for instance, that were seen flying over   
   Belgium. That would probably mean that the Belgium Government has   
   space craft and no one is talking. They just haven't gotten to the   
   point they need to get to, i.e., their mapping systems. You would   
   think they would get there, someday.   
      
   Thanks for reading.   
      
   John Ayres   
      
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