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|    MrPostingRobot@kymhorsell.com to All    |
|    jellyfish ufos (1/2) (1/2)    |
|    17 Apr 21 12:11:00    |
      Let me let you in on a little secret.              I was gardening one sunny day before the Pandemic and got up to       stretch after a bout of weeding around the roses and there -- hanging       in the W sky around 45 deg above the horizon -- was an odd looking object.       At first I thought it might be a large grayish plastic bag       that had somehow been blown way up into the air and for reasons       unknown had just decided to hang motionless up there.              I watched it for 2-3 mins and it didn't seem to move. From my rough       measurements it had visual diam around ~4 deg. But it was -- as usual       with these things -- hard to judge how far it was away. The sky was       cloudless blue. The "bag" wasn't even fluttering. It could have been 1 ft       across or 100.              My eyesight these days is not the best -- after a couple bouts of chemo a       few years back I was declared legally blind and things haven't gotten       better from there -- but I could make out some darker irregular internal       structures in the "bag". If it was a garbage bag then someone forgot to       empty it before it got up into the sky.              After watching it a while more, and it still not moving at all, I got a bit       bored and went back to the weeding. 5-10 mins after that I looked       up again and it was gone.              I recalled that maybe 1 year before this incident I had seen another       grey garbage bag up in (by coincidence?) the same area of the sky.       But that one had really looked and acted like a garbage bag. On a day       that was a bit grayish and windy at ground level, that time the bag was       wayyy up in the sky -- maybe 1 deg in apparent diam -- and was obviously       being blowing around. But now I come to think of it, it had managed to stay       reasonably close to the same spot in the sky and just seemed to be doing       "cartwheels" up there. After a min or 2 I lost interest and had gone       onto other things and didn't look for it again.              I didn't think much more about either plastic bag until another       incident happened maybe 6m later (we're up to mid 2019). Third time       was the charm. That time I think I was just hanging out under the       awning on the patio having a cup of joe, looking out over the small       part of the world visible to the N. Then something came into view       roughly over my left shoulder (SW). It was like nothing I've ever       seen or heard of before. I tried to google it up. Nothing. What it       looked like was odd enough. But what is was doing was just crazy.       Either/or it was an unusual thing.              Visibly it looked like 2 elongated teardrops joined point to point.       Like a horizontal infinity sign with an aspect ratio around 4 to 1.       It was flying at apparently constant speed and constant height, the       speed of a small plane at fairly low altitude. But, us usual, hard to       judge how high it was. There was some fluffy white and dark clouds off       to my NW. Maybe at most it was about 1/2 way between that and me.       If the shape of the thing and the sheen and the occasional shimmer       that showed it wasn't a rigid skin were not enough, it was in a slow       constant rate flat spin about the center. It was like the whole thing       was some kind of hellicopter. Except as it rotated you could see it       had a round cross section and not anything that could reasonably       produce lift.              Upto ~10 deg wide when I first saw it, if it was 1/2 way between me       and the clouds over to the NW it could have been 50-70m along its long axis.       A bit large for e.g. a broken weather balloon.              But how/why the H*ll was it turning? It turned around it's center every       approx 10 sec. There was the low grey cloud some distance off to my 10       o'clock, but as the thing flew horiz and turned it briefly caught the       sun every couple rotations somewhere nr the middle of the "infinity".       The glints were copper colored.              The thing proceeded leisurely at constant speed, constant height,       constant rotation in roughly a northerly direction until it       disappeared from view over 2m high fences, buildings -- homes and       barns and whatnot -- toward my north.              These incidents re-ignited a childhood interest in the non-mundane.              Which is why I started gathering some numbers and seeing what could be       extracted from same.              At about that time anyway, someone I knew from academia sent me an       academic paper on warp drive they were working on. And in between       large grabs of esoteric math related to solving GR field equations in       strong EM fields the paper mentioned the Nimitz tictac biz from a few       years earlier.              While individual reports might be mistake or hoaxes, it's much much       harder for a group of witnesses to see things that form a consistent       pattern or strong relationship with other things in the wider world       they should not have been able to appreciate. Like the weather on a       given day in the middle of a remote continent or water temperatures in       the depths of the Atlantic.              In my case I only have a handful of one-off events. So fat chance they       can be analyzed by themselves at all.              But the phenomenon of "sky jellyfish", which seemed to be about the       only thing that was even vaguely similar, is another apparently       growing thing and we can look at that.              There are lots of explanations from hard scientists that write the       phenomena off entirely as sunlight reflecting off rocket exhaust or       clouds, or various other "swamp gas" type explanations. Sure. It       could be anything. It could be a combination of broken weather       balloons or wind-blown shopping bags. But in a few years of looking       fairly carefully at the world it's hard to believe mundane things can       behave the way 2 of the objects I saw did.              But no matter. Let's just "go to the tape" and see whether there are       patterns in what other people have reported related to objects that       look like jellyfish wandering around the skies of mostly N Am.              The year-by-year list of reports that mention "jelly" in the NUFORC data       looks like:              Year #sky jellyfish       1972 1       2003 1       2005 1       2006 3       2007 4       2008 4       2009 5       2010 6 <-- max       2011 4       2012 5       2013 4       2014 3       2015 1       2017 1       2018 4       2019 1       2020 5                     As with some of similar data we might ask ourselves how we can       possibly make anything out of such a small, scrappy set of numbers.              But we can, of course. We just have to be careful. Or try to be careful. :)              We can run a set of careful statistical tests to see what variables       out there in the world seem to closely predict the appearance of these       particular sightings. I.e. what other things happened in the same       month, prev month, prev season, last year that seem to predict the       number of jellyfish sightings in a given month.              The AI s/w I am using & developing mostly is oriented to trying to       compare things against natural phenomena like the month-by-month       average temperature in remote locations, areas of sea ice in the       Arctic, or the depth of snow at Vostok at the S Pole. It has a       database of literally 1000s of such things that it updated and expands       day by day and can notionally (since it uses experience it has       previously gained, it sometimes "guesstimates" what variables are              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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