From: kymhorsell@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 8:44:40 AM UTC+10, Skybuck Flying wrote:   
   > This is something that might interest you ! ;)    
   >    
   > DRAFT, UNDER REVIEW    
   > Draft version March 7, 2023    
   > Typeset using LATEX default style in AASTeX631    
   > PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS ON UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA    
   > Abraham (Avi) Loeb1 and Sean M. Kirkpatrick2    
   ....   
      
   I posted something on this Mar 7th.   
      
   I find the paper somewhat disappointing. It almost amounts to "if UFO's dont   
   work the way  what we expect then the sighting reports are wrong".   
      
   In particular, I think, that part of it takes aim at some Ukrainian   
   astronomers that earlier reported seeing light and dark objects crossing over   
   the sky "all the time" even during daylight hours. They did some very rough   
   but interesting calculations to    
   determine how far up in the atm the objects might be and therefore calculated   
   their speed given they were moving at quite a high angular speed.   
      
   A lot of people piled on that the results could not be possible and the   
   astronomers were publicly forced to back down. But the Ukrainian authorities   
   stopped short of removing the work from official websites.   
      
   I dont know much about Kirkpatrick, but Avi Loeb at one point was criticizing   
   scientists that ridiculed UFO reports as "impossible" saying he had seen many   
   things proved possible in his career that experts had thought impossible, and   
   compalined how older    
   scientists tend to support the status quo because it favours their careers.   
      
   Now, it seems , he himself is turing into an established scientists that   
   supports the status quo because it favours his reputation.   
      
   The other thing to note is the torrent of rubbish that has been written about   
   this particular paper claiming it proves the Pentagon believes a whole bunch   
   of things about UFOs when the paper clearly comes down on the establishment   
   side of things.   
      
   I also note that another physics group that is looking into unexplained   
   phenomena  -- including old pre-satellite phots that show stars in some   
   position at one time and no star in that position at another time -- has   
   written a paper saying UFO's might    
   travel at high speed in the atmosphere and not burn like a fireball --   
   something Avi Loeb says in this paper and many other times as well :) -- using   
   simple physics and no new-fangled speculative physics.   
      
   So the paper may stay in pre-print form for a while. :)   
      
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