From: kymhorsell@gmail.com   
      
   Another short note for the "what do they want" file.   
      
   On another group they have been discussing new research on the  gravity field   
   of the   
   Indian Ocean. There is an anomaly ("gravity hole") around the middle of the   
   ocean and a   
   new paper  has  offered up  a reason for it.   
      
   Meanwhile, gravity surveys of the whole planet -- land and ocean --   
   have been going on continuously since 2002 with the launch of the   
   GRACE satellites.  We've looked at these before. Using a very precise   
   measurement of the distance between the 2 parts of the GRACE "train" it   
   can figure out the local gravity field. Complex calculations by   
   several groups can reconstruct anomalous (i.e. not related to a   
   smooth trend over time or the seasonal variations) mass variations   
   over each "grid" of the land or ocean seen by the sat every couple hrs.   
      
   I've used old publicly-aavailable data from GRACE (now into a 2nd   
   mission called GRACE-FO "Follow On") to calculate changes in mass in   
   the Southern Ocean that may be related to the monthly cycles of   
   plankton grown and decline.  If the variation in mass there is related   
   to plankton then enough of it comes and goes in its various growth   
   spurts during the year to feed a population of around 80 billion   
   humans. I presume it doesn't all just die off and go to waste. And we   
   might suspect that is not happening. :)   
      
   But now we could look at the Indian Ocean measurements made by GRACE   
   over 2002-2018. And we find the measurements for the 1000x1000 km   
   central Indian Ocean seem to vary in phase with the distance between   
   Earth and Neptune. Both my usual stat tests show better than 90%   
   confidence it is not just a statistical fluke -- there seems to be a   
   link between the distance to Neptune as it varies up and down over the   
   period.  The closer Neptune is the less the Indian Ocean weighs -- to   
   the tune of around 20,000 tonnes per km2.   
      
   The key data looks like:   
      
   Y/M     DelNept   GRACE lwe c Ind Ocn   
   2016.62	29.0044	-0.838145   
   2012.71	29.1195	1.36337   
   2016.54	29.2506	0.592272   
   2014.79	29.3741	0.387552   
   2009.79	29.4984	1.36543   
   2016.88	29.632	0.0654497   
   2014.88	29.8299	-0.697913   
   2010.88	29.9953	-0.249577   
   2016.38	30.156	-1.66697   
   2013.96	30.3744	-0.686367   
   2008.29	30.4843	-0.343731   
   2016.04	30.5873	-1.83637   
   2015.04	30.7031	0.318831   
   2016.21	30.834	-1.81756   
   2009.04	30.8968	-1.0724   
   2015.12	30.9908	-1.20513   
      
   The "DelNept" column is the Horizons calculated dist between Earth and   
   Nept in AU. It varies by around 2 AU as the earth orbits around the   
   sun but also a little as Nept also orbits around the sun much slower   
   than earth.   
      
   "Grace lwe" is the anomalous mass change over a month for the central   
   region of the Indian Ocean. It's in LWE -- liquid water equivalent   
   (cms). That means "+1" in the LWE is 1 extra cm of water over the   
   region. I.e. around 10kt/km2 of "water equivalent".   
      
   So if the DelNept varies somewhat irregularly by +-1 AU from an avg   
   and the GRACE lwe somewhat irregularly varies by roughly +-2 cm from   
   an avg then what could be coming and going from the regin to the tune   
   of 20,000 t/km2?   
      
   We don't have to think too long:   
      
     Manganese nodules   
     World Ocean Review   
     INDIAN OCEAN: So far only a single large area of manganese nodules has been   
     discovered here, with an area comparable to that of the Penrhyn Basin. It is   
     located ...   
      
     Manganese nodules   
     World Ocean Review   
     Large areas in the Cook Islands coastal waters have concentrations of over   
     25 kilograms of manganese nodules per square metre of sea floor.   
     INDIAN OCEAN: So far ...   
      
     What's In a Nodule?: 2021 North Atlantic Stepping Stones   
     The largest deposits of manganese nodules occur in the deep abyssal plains   
     of the world's oceans, where they can have very uniform distribution for   
     many miles of seafloor.   
     -- oceanexplorer.noaa.gov   
      
     India has got rights to mine magnesium nodules from ... - Vedantu   
     As it guards the Indian Ocean, India got the rights to mine them from the   
     International Seabed Authority (ISA). - India can improve the availability   
     of nickel, copper, cobalt and manganese by mining polymetallic nodules on   
     the seabed in the Central Indian Ocean Basin.   
      
      
   As one of the items seas -- 25 kg/m2 is 25 kt/km2. Almost exactly   
   what GRACE says is coming and going irregularly from the Indian Ocean   
   almost exactly in synch with the distance to Neptune.   
      
   Are we looking at a mining operation here?   
      
   We suspect some of the outer planets have oceans of one kind or   
   another.  Ganymede supposedly has the largest volume of salt water in   
   the solar system and an order of magnitude larger than Earth's oceans.   
   If we are looking at someone coming from there, why would they?  You   
   can always fall back on possible economic factors.  Maybe the deep   
   oceans supposed in the outer planets or moons of outer planets are too   
   deep to allow for such easy access. Maybe growth of these nodules --   
   it's a newable resource -- can't happen there.  Or maybe it's too deep   
   to get easily. Or at least as easily as the Earth's abyssal plains.   
      
   Maybe abyssal plains rhymes with "easy pickins".   
      
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