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   XPost: alt.alien.research   
   From: nobodys@busine.ss   
      
   On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:22:06 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   wrote:   
      
   >"Malte Runz"  wrote in message   
   >news:mjnh6khvpsqq2871njjta0rta6fq0jsihb@4ax.com...   
   >>   
   >>On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 09:58:50 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>"Malte Runz"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:qbhf6klnb7a6djkojsklqo6iga95ssdfg4@4ax.com...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:24:07 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>(snip)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Crashed craft retrieval cases have come out hundreds of times. ...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Now, that's what I call a 'positive claim', and we all know what that   
   >>>>entails.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Only mainstream media followers and 'authority' followers have never heard   
   >>>of that. Normies.   
   >>   
   >>Of course I've heard the claims made before. Do you think you're the   
   >>only kook on the internet?   
   >>   
   >   
   >If you call me a kook then you also have to call air force pilots, senior   
   >military officials and investigators etc. kooks too. ...   
      
   And I do. Did you see the hearings in the US Congress a while back?   
   The airforce (?) guy who claimed that some of his superiors had   
   ADMITTED!!!! that they were in the possession of alien crafts? He   
   looked so god damned miserable in his chair, when it dawned on him   
   that nobody believed him and that he most likely was the butt of a   
   joke everyone else was in on. A proper kook, but honestly, I felt   
   sorry for the guy.   
      
   >It's far more likely that you're just an ignorant arrogant smartass troll   
   >reacting from your emotions.   
      
   Ignorant, no. But arrogant smartass, yes.   
      
      
   >>>>> ... Upgrade your   
   >>>>>sources.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Name one.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Of course you don't know any except the mainstream info suppressing ones.   
   >>   
   >>I can't possibly know what /your/ sources are.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You don't have any proper sources so you're always on the lookout for some.   
   >That's obvious.   
      
   Is this how you think it plays out in my mind?:   
      
   'Wow! They have captured live aliens!!! How can I learn about that?   
   Right, I better ask Andrew. He knows soooo much about these topics.   
   Hey Andrew, can you refer me to a few of your superior sources,   
   (because [snicker] I'm too lazy to look for it myself)?'   
      
   You know exactly why I ask you for the evidence that has convinced   
   you. (No, not the one single piece of evidence, and no, not all the   
   evidence you have seen over the decades.)   
      
      
   >>Von Däniken? Alex   
   >>Jones? Random Dude on Rumor Mill?   
   >>   
   >   
   >They're all far smarter than you. Why can't you find/see the real truth   
   >instead of just troll?   
      
   Listen, there is only one troll in this, and it is the guy who keeps   
   posting outrageous and unsubstantiated claims that he is not willing   
   to back up and debate in a meaningful way.   
      
      
   >>Why don't you want to tell me?   
   >>   
   >   
   >Because you're just a dumb jerk who only follows and believes mainstream   
   >slop.   
      
   I think we have to look for the answer to my question elsewhere. I   
   think you know that none of your sources would stand up to scrutiny.   
   'A guy said X, and I choose to believe him!' and you're too   
   embarrassed to show us.   
      
      
   >>>>And no, don't wiggle your way out the usual way, suggesting   
   >>>>I'm too lazy to find one myself.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>You are lazy, two minute Google result believer.   
   >>   
   >>Wiggle wiggle wiggle.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You can't face the truth.   
      
   Try me.   
      
      
   >>>>Also, this is not about what my   
   >>>>sources have to say, it's all about /your/ sources.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>But your sources are lying/suppressing crap. That's the real issue.   
   >>   
   >>You're the one making the claim, therefore you provide the evidence.   
   >>This can't be a new concept to you.   
   >>   
   >   
   >No I'm just passing on 'claims' by investigators and official witnesses.   
   >You obviously live in a very small world.   
      
   Appeal to authorities noted.   
      
      
   >>>>So, do you have an 'upgraded source' that provides evidence for the   
   >>>>retrieval of a crashed craft created by an alien race?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>I have plenty ...   
   >>   
   >>So you say, but are unable to provide any. I call your bluff... again.   
   >>   
   >   
   >So you want me to waste more time on the likes of you? Why?   
      
   Ask yourself why you're responding to my posts in the first place.   
      
      
   >>> ... but you will never search for yourself and switch. ...   
   >>   
   >>I can find hundreds, if not thousands, of people saying the same shit   
   >>you do,   
   >>   
   >   
   >Military officials talk shit? Ok smarty.   
      
   Another appeal to authorities. Do you now believe everything "military   
   officials" say?   
      
      
   >>all claiming to have the evidence. Grainy images of out of   
   >>focus gray blobs, un-named specialists and insiders spilling the   
   >>beans, ancient wisdom, inter stellar revelations, anecdotal evidence   
   >>of abductions, and of course, 'They are hiding the truth from us'.   
   >>   
   >   
   >So you still don't know why the military and governments hide things from   
   >the population? Are you dumb?   
      
   If they are hiding all the good stuff how have you learned about it?   
   What material have you gained access to? Material that I also could   
   find on the internet... if I weren't so lazy.   
      
   >They put strict laws in place. Find out why and then come back.   
      
   Name one law They have put in place.   
   '§1: Keep the alien spaceships hidden from the gullible masses.'   
      
      
   >>Understand that I'm interested in learning what /you/ have found and   
   >>where you found it.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Yes you're obsessed about that. I get it. ...   
      
   I really don't think you do.   
      
   > ... Your emotions just can't handle   
   >'claims'. Get therapy.   
      
   If therapy would make me believe stories about alien abductions and   
   captured spaceships, I'd rather stay... 'emotional' regarding those   
   things.   
      
      
   >>> ... You're not   
   >>>interested.   
   >>   
   >>Of course I'm interested. I ask you for an answer every time. What   
   >>evidence have /you/ seen?   
   >>   
   >   
   >I've seen a few craft, in one case a cluster of them go across the sky. That   
   >was before satellite clusters.   
      
   Thank you. I'm now totally convinced that aliens from space have   
   visited Earth. Just like I'm convinced that Elvis didn't die. And that   
   Bigfoot is on the loose... somewhere out there.   
      
      
   >>>>My sole point is to expose you as a liar, and every time you fail to   
   >>>>provide a source for your claims my point is proven.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>No, ...   
   >>   
   >>Yes. Did you, or didn't you, provide a source?   
   >>   
   >   
   >Why do I have to? You'll just jerk off like always.   
      
   If I had made a claim and was asked to provide evidence I'd be happy   
   to do so. You, on the other hand, react like it is a personal attack   
   when people ask for your sources.   
      
      
   >>You didn't. Instead you   
   >>evaded my questions exactly the way I predicted you would.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You're not a courtroom prosecutor so quit acting like one.   
      
   Not going to happen. As long as you do your thing, I'll do mine.   
      
   >A.a is so full of crap head stooges. It's a mental asylum.   
      
      
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