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   XPost: alt.alien.research   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/12/25 8:35 PM, Malte Runz wrote:   
      
   > And their career will survive after they've been spilling the beans?   
   > Think, man. They are, as you claim, revealing some of the deepest   
   > secrets kept hidden for generations. How is that going to protect them   
   > and their career?   
      
   There are different levels of security clearances. If you are not   
   authorized to, say, read a report, and you come across it laying   
   in the breakroom table, you are absolutely positively NOT allowed   
   to go through it, do some reading. You are not, and you agree to   
   this when you get your security clearance.   
      
   Now look at Bob Lazar's story:  He was told to sit & wait in a   
   room and there before him, resting on the table, were all kinds   
   of TOP SECRET materials... files... lots & lots of reading   
   materials. He he went through them all, reading them...   
      
   Doesn't it look like "A test" of sorts? They fed him a boatload   
   of bullshit which, if he follows the rules, will never read, but   
   if he breaks the rules and reads it then his head is filled with   
   not just useless but self-marginalizing bullshit.   
      
   "Whistle Blowers" go to prison. Anyone telling you about government   
   secret programs and known aliens is not in prison, or you   
   wouldn't be hearing them. Thus, they are not a whistle blower.   
      
   > You're absolutely right. I'm way too dumb to understand these things.   
   > Explain, oh wise one, why would the government, who is trying to keep   
   > all things 'alien' hidden, allow "Pilots and military officials" to   
   > participate in public hearings, where they spill the beans? Yes,   
   > explain that one to me.   
      
      ...reviewing & pre approving the testimony of these pilots and   
   officials.   
      
   As I've often said -- here and elsewhere -- imagine a mafia informant   
   who submitted all his testimony to the mafia in advanced, and only   
   "Revealed" what they, the mafia, approved... would you consider them   
   a real "Informer?"   
      
   Would seem to me that this "Informer" was actually PROTECTING the   
   mafia, not exposing it.   
      
   > What's there to "research", when no evidence is ever provided?   
      
   There are claims that are testable and hence can be treated   
   seriously... sometimes.   
      
   Most things that lend themselves to testing are far too narrow,   
   too specific to completely "Prove" or "Rule Out" anything.   
      
   Like I pointed out:  IF we take the ancient aliens narrative   
   seriously AND we take the UFO crash folklore seriously as well,   
   THEN we can test ancient artifacts -- archaeological finds,   
   museum & private collections -- looking for anomalous materials   
   of a type consistent with a hyper advanced (even by our present   
   standards) interstellar craft.   
      
   Okay so if we don't find any then they can claim we just haven't   
   gotten to the alien materials yet, and we need to keep looking.   
      
   OR, they can say that the UFO crash mythology is all false but   
   the UFOs are real, so not finding their materials doesn't   
   falsify aliens.   
      
   OR, Aliens and crashed UFOs are real but they only started   
   arriving in modern times.   
      
   It's in the same position as SETI:  We can "Prove" or at least   
   "Support" the ancient aliens/UFO crashes stuff with a find,   
   but we can't disprove them by searching and NOT finding anything.   
      
      
      
      
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