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   From: nobodys@busine.ss   
      
   On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 10:23:50 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   wrote:   
      
   >"Malte Runz"  wrote in message   
   >news:eoek6khnnmkai0cfrcftst4af8e0rvb0j7@4ax.com...   
   >>   
   >>On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 09:22:06 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>"Malte Runz"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:mjnh6khvpsqq2871njjta0rta6fq0jsihb@4ax.com...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 09:58:50 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   >>>>wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>"Malte Runz"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:qbhf6klnb7a6djkojsklqo6iga95ssdfg4@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:24:07 +1000, "Andrew W"    
   >>>>>>wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>(snip)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Crashed craft retrieval cases have come out hundreds of times. ...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Now, that's what I call a 'positive claim', and we all know what that   
   >>>>>>entails.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Only mainstream media followers and 'authority' followers have never   
   >>>>>heard   
   >>>>>of that. Normies.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Of course I've heard the claims made before. Do you think you're the   
   >>>>only kook on the internet?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>If you call me a kook then you also have to call air force pilots, senior   
   >>>military officials and investigators etc. kooks too. ...   
   >>   
   >>And I do.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You have little or no knowledge or qualification to do so. It's you who has   
   >no credibility.   
   >Pilots and military officials are highly trained and have a career to look   
   >after. They can't afford to talk crap.   
      
   And their career will survive after they've been spilling the beans?   
   Think, man. They are, as you claim, revealing some of the deepest   
   secrets kept hidden for generations. How is that going to protect them   
   and their career?   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Did you see the hearings in the US Congress a while back?   
   >>The airforce (?) guy who claimed that some of his superiors had   
   >>ADMITTED!!!! that they were in the possession of alien crafts? He   
   >>looked so god damned miserable in his chair, when it dawned on him   
   >>that nobody believed him and that he most likely was the butt of a   
   >>joke everyone else was in on. A proper kook, but honestly, I felt   
   >>sorry for the guy.   
   >>   
   >   
   >That's just your woke emotion based reaction. You've been conditioned since   
   >a young age to ridicule such things, and that's because of the CIA ridicule   
   >program that's been running for decades, which you also don't know about.   
   >Why do you never ask the obvious question: Why would governments go to so   
   >much trouble to cover this up? I think you're not smart enough to think this   
   >far.   
      
   You're absolutely right. I'm way too dumb to understand these things.   
   Explain, oh wise one, why would the government, who is trying to keep   
   all things 'alien' hidden, allow "Pilots and military officials" to   
   participate in public hearings, where they spill the beans? Yes,   
   explain that one to me.   
      
   And no, I'm not really looking to you for an answer. I'm being fucking   
   ironic, in case you haven't noticed.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>It's far more likely that you're just an ignorant arrogant smartass troll   
   >>>reacting from your emotions.   
   >>   
   >>Ignorant, no. But arrogant smartass, yes.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Thanks for the part admission.   
      
   I've never though of it as a secret. I've been trying really hard to   
   make it as obvious as possible.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> ... Upgrade your   
   >>>>>>>sources.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Name one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Of course you don't know any except the mainstream info suppressing   
   >>>>>ones.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I can't possibly know what /your/ sources are.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>You don't have any proper sources so you're always on the lookout for   
   >>>some.   
   >>>That's obvious.   
   >>   
   >>Is this how you think it plays out in my mind?:   
   >>   
   >>'Wow! They have captured live aliens!!! How can I learn about that?   
   >>   
   >   
   >You don't want to learn about that, you just want to follow mainstream   
   >authorities.   
      
   One thing all of you kooks have in common is a total lack of ability   
   to detect irony. You're too full of yourselves.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Right, I better ask Andrew. He knows soooo much about these topics.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You wouldn't know who knows things/truths. You're obviously unable to   
   >determine that. You just picked the easy, convenient and satisfying side and   
   >stuck with it.   
      
   So, when you claim to know the truths about the aliens, their origin,   
   their goals, with whom they cooperate, etc, I shouldn't trust you?   
      
      
   >>   
   >>Hey Andrew, can you refer me to a few of your superior sources,   
   >>(because [snicker] I'm too lazy to look for it myself)?'   
   >>   
   >>You know exactly why I ask you for the evidence that has convinced   
   >>you. (No, not the one single piece of evidence, and no, not all the   
   >>evidence you have seen over the decades.)   
   >>   
   >   
   >Yes I know why you ask for my evidence and do zero proper research of your   
   >own (like normal people). ...   
      
   What's there to "research", when no evidence is ever provided? A tall   
   tale of having been abducted and probed, over and over and over again,   
   is not evidence of said probing. Tall tales and hearsay is not   
   evidence, but that is all you have.   
      
   > ... You just want to ridicule whatever you've been   
   >conditioned to ridicule, because you're a man child.   
   >Did your father lead to you to be like this? Was he a ridiculer and   
   >mainstream/gov authority and media follower?   
      
   He deserted from the Nazi's Marine in 1945, an 18 year old kid,   
   running through a field, bullets flying over his head. He would laugh   
   at your pathetic ideas about space aliens, and despise you for siding   
   with Putin. Damn, wouldn't you have been a good little Hitler Jugend   
   boy.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>>Von Däniken? Alex   
   >>>>Jones? Random Dude on Rumor Mill?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>They're all far smarter than you. Why can't you find/see the real truth   
   >>>instead of just troll?   
   >>   
   >>Listen, there is only one troll in this, and it is the guy who keeps   
   >>posting outrageous and unsubstantiated claims that he is not willing   
   >>to back up and debate in a meaningful way.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You really don't get it. ...   
      
   Oh yes, I do.   
      
   > ... There are actually curious people in this world who   
   >want to hear other than gov/media perspectives and narratives.   
   >IOW my posts are not for your type. ...   
      
   Then stop responding to my posts. You're not obligated to waste time   
   on a lost case like me.   
      
   > ... But I do like a challenge, and sometimes   
   >people's minds are actually opened.   
      
   So you want a challenge, eh? Lemme think...   
      
   Show me an image of a UFO or alien being you believe is the real deal.   
   (You won't, of course. Instead you will blame me for not having found   
   it myself.)   
      
   >>   
   >>>>Why don't you want to tell me?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>Because you're just a dumb jerk who only follows and believes mainstream   
   >>>slop.   
   >>   
   >>I think we have to look for the answer to my question elsewhere.   
   >>   
   >   
      
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