XPost: alt.alien.research   
   From: not@necessary.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 01:17:07 -0400, JTEM wrote:   
      
   > Now wait a minute, wait..wait..wait..   
   >   
   > Most people, nearly all, will tell you that, yes, they do believe that   
   > there are other civilizations outside of the Earth. That, space is just   
   > so big, so infinite is size that no matter how small we make the odds we   
   > are left with huge numbers of inhabited worlds.   
   >   
   > Think of this:  If all we do is assume that maybe there's one   
   > civilization to arise, on average, for every single GALACTIC CLUSTER,   
   > that still leaves us with half a trillion alien civilizations.   
   >   
   > Oh. A "Galactic Cluster" is literally what it sounds like, which is to   
   > say a cluster of galaxies.   
   >   
   > Yes galaxies appear to cluster in groups.   
   >   
   > We're talking 100, maybe even 1,000 galaxies per cluster,   
   > and if we assumed that they average even just one single intelligent   
   > species per cluster, we're looking at half a trillion or more alien   
   > civilizations surrounding us...   
   >   
   > So the numbers are BIG.   
   >   
   > This same argument or "Logic" can be applied to alien craft.   
   >   
   > NOTE:  "Alien craft" doesn't have to be manned. We've sent plenty of   
   > tech out into space yet, apart from our own moon,   
   > we don't as a rule send people. Just machines.   
   >   
   > Next...   
   >   
   > Already we here on the planet Earth can detect "Biosignatures" on other   
   > worlds more than 100 light years away.   
   >   
   > A "Biosignature" would be anything placed in the atmosphere by life.   
   > Oxygen, here on earth, comes from life. Methane, here on Earth, is   
   > likewise a biproduct of life... on & on & on...   
   >   
   > So the point is that we can identify "Biosignatures" out beyond 100   
   > light years from us, already, yet we haven't even been in the exoplanet   
   > game for 40 years yet!   
   >   
   > If an alien species is exactly as technologically advanced as we are,   
   > and within 100 light years, they know that we're here.   
   >   
   > They know that there's life on this Earth.   
   >   
   > Now imagine if they are as advanced as we are -- not any more high tech   
   > then us here on Earth -- but their priorities are completely different.   
   > Maybe what we invest into the military is what they invest into space   
   > exploration. In which case, they might've found us a decade or more ago!   
   >   
   > The point is that we don't have to imagine Star Trek or a Flash Gordon   
   > scenario here. A civilization's priorities may be a larger factor in   
   > their ability to spot us then even there level of technology. They might   
   > be a few decades behind us, but simply spent the bucks where we   
   > wouldn't...   
   >   
   > Yeah space is huge and they could be looking but still managed to miss   
   > us, or haven't gotten around to us yet, more likely, but if they exist   
   > they can spot us. They can know life is here.   
   >   
   > That's it.   
   >   
   > The planet has been broadcasting the fact that there's life down here --   
   > via biosignatures -- for BILLIONS of years already,   
   > so time doesn't even seem to be a factor....   
   >   
   > So, let's guesstimate here:  If we've been visible for billions of   
   > years, and they could exist anywhere out beyond 100 light years in any   
   > direction, what are the odds that someone sends a probe to inspect this   
   > life-bearing world that they see?   
   >   
   > Well. Even if it only happens once in a million years, there's been over   
   > 60 since the dinosaurs went extinct. There's been some 500 or more since   
   > the Cambrian explosion. There's been two to three since the genus Homo   
   > (humans) evolved...   
   >   
   > At once every 100 million years there's been at least five since the   
   > Cambrian Explosion.   
   >   
   > At once every billion years there's been 2 since the Great Oxidation   
   > Event...   
   >   
   > It's just one of those things where no matter how big we make the   
   > numbers, there's been so much time and space is so incomprehensibly   
   > large that we still have alien craft buzzing the earth.   
      
   What do you think Oumuamua was? There's a 100 light-year bubble around the   
   Milky way containing Earth's radio transmissions (though extremely faint).   
   If we can detect gravitational waves on Earth that occur millions of   
   light-years away; some craft with a good enough detector can easily detect   
   our faintest radio waves. And Oumuamua was closer, much much closer. It   
   could, in theory, get the news from last 48 hours if it wanted to.   
      
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