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   From: lars@beagle-ears.com   
      
   ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.unix.geeks]   
      
   On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>> Like having Ozempic for free?   
      
   On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:   
   >>> TANSTAAFL   
      
   On 2025-12-20 11:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:   
   >> Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.   
   >> And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary   
   >>   
   >> Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.   
      
   On 2025-12-20, Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   > Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an   
   > expensive treatment, there are others.   
   >   
   > And obesity exist for many reasons.   
      
   When I was young, I was a scrawny kid. As a young geek, sleeping   
   irregular hours, working 11 to 20:30 and eating at random times, I was   
   still scrawny. After I got married, I started to slowly gain weight;   
   but I was still pretty active, so it was slow. After my divorce,   
   I was depressed, and much less active, and eventually reached 270   
   pounds. With a medically supervised calorie reduction program, I made it   
   back to 195 pounds, but it was not a sustainable diet, and after I   
   remarried, it crept back up to 230 lbs. With what I considered strict   
   discipline, I made it down to 205, but was stuck oscilating between 205   
   and 215.   
      
   Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from   
   EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.   
      
   The price illustrates our ridiculous US healthcare system.   
   1) If I was a lot more obese (290 lbs?) or my type 2 diabetes was less   
      well managed, I would pay USD 30/month as my copay, and Medicare   
      would pay the rest.   
   2) If I went to one of the shadier compound pharmacies with internet   
      sales (that import the compounds directly from China), with imaginary   
      medical supervision from their "virtual doctor".   
   3) If I took the risk of importing the compounds from China myself,   
      I learned from an NYT article that I could get a 10 month supply for   
      USD 150.   
   So the difference between $15/month and $500/month is the quality   
   control performed by the pharma company and the heavy TV advertising.   
      
   With Zepbound I am experienccing for the first time in my life that   
   I can go to lunch with a group of men and feel full when half the meal   
   is still on the plate, and have them box up the rest for me.   
      
   So this is what it's like for those people who are effortlessly slim   
   without contorting themselves to be hungry all the time!   
      
   No wonder they think I am just undisciplined.   
      
   --   
   Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)