From: crude@sausa.ge
On 2025-12-30 22:51, vallor wrote:
> At 31 Dec 2025 02:25:51 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:59:52 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> I tend to take some of this with a grain of salt. One of the most
>>> successful missionaries in Africa was Archbishop Lefebvre, who
>>> founded the Society of St. Pius X. I would have trouble believing
>>> that he wouldn't teach his converts the correct Catholic doctrine.
>>> I think one of his potential "faults" was being a little too rigid.
>>> A lot has probably changed since his day, but I still see reports
>>> of reverent African Catholics. Maybe I'm missing too much. I don't
>>> know.
>>
>> I'm sure he tried. If the US is any example the people who were
>> taught the correct doctrine and who follow that doctrine make an
>> interesting Venn diagram.
>>
>> I wonder what Leo will do with SSPX? They're still 'irregular' aren't
>> they? The trad priests here are SSPV so they're completely off the
>> Christmas Card list. They don't like many people and have a list of
>> who cannot receive communion.
>>
>> "1.) Anyone who adheres to the teachings of Father Leonard Feeney and
>> Saint Benedict Center (denying the Church’s teaching concerning
>> “baptism of desire” and “baptism of blood”) must not receive Holy
>> Communion at Immaculate Heart of Mary Church. 2.) Likewise those who
>> attend and receives Communion at the religious services conducted by
>> any of the CMRI bishops or clergy or Thuc bishops and clergy in
>> concert with them; 3.) also, those who attend the religious services
>> of the Novus Ordo (the new Mass) including the Indult Mass /
>> Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, offered by clergy who are
>> affiliated with the Novus Ordo, among them being the Fraternity of
>> St. Peter, Institute of Christ the King, Opus Dei, Transalpine
>> Redemptorist, Institute of the Good Shepherd and others must not
>> receive any Sacraments, much less Holy Communion, at Immaculate Heart
>> of Mary Church."
>>
>> The Feeney restriction is intereting. In 'Deadly Indifference'
>> Sammons treads lightly around that one. He doesn't reject 'baptism of
>> desire' and 'baptism of blood' but says they're meant to be
>> extraordinary measures and not commonplace.
>>
>> I don't know how a priest would answer if formally questioned but in
>> the '50s extra ecclesiam nulla salus didn't mean any old storefront
>> ecclesiam.
>
> And oldie but goodie...
>
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> A man stands on a bridge railing, clearly about to jump.
>
> A second guy runs up and says, "Don't jump! God loves you!"
>
> The first guy looks down. "He does?"
>
> "Yeah. Are you religious?"
>
> "Yeah."
>
> "Me too! Are you Christian?"
>
> "Yeah."
>
> "Me too! Catholic or Protestant?"
>
> "Protestant."
>
> "Me too! What denomination?"
>
> "Baptist."
>
> "Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?"
>
> "Northern Baptist."
>
> "Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
>
> "Northern Conservative Baptist."
>
> "Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern
> Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?"
>
> "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region."
>
> "Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of
> 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of
> 1912?"
>
> "Council of 1912."
>
> The second guy's face darkens. He snarls, "Die, heretic!" ...and pushes
> him off the bridge.
Admittedly, just being a Catholic seems a lot easier. It's like choosing
Ubuntu over Gentoo.
--
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
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