From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2026-01-13 12:53, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-13, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-12 18:49, Nuno Silva wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-12, Carlos E.R. wrote:   
      
   ...   
      
   >>>> Energy here is expensive, so government put limits: not below 27°C in   
   >>>> summer, or above 19°C in winter. That was in 2022, and they are not   
   >>>> currently active. Hospitals, schools, transport, were excepted. There   
   >>>> is another technical recommendation (RITE) for 21 °C / 26 °C   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I actually find 27°C confortable in summer. If adjusted to cooler,   
   >>>> then going out to the street is too unbearable.   
   >>>   
   >>> Is humidity specified too?   
   >>   
   >> Good question. Maybe, but it was not in the news. I guess that the   
   >> institutions and companies affected were free to adjust that.   
   >>   
   >>> Any criteria that must be met for the temperature measurement to hold?   
   >>> (I mean, not all 27° will feel the same, but chances are that a proper   
   >>> HVAC system will do more than just cooling to make it more bearable.)   
   >>   
   >> 27° is my own preference at home, and I have no means to control humidity.   
   >   
   > How does it tend to go during the winter there? At least around the   
   > Lisbon area it's, I think, common to have significantly humid winters,   
   > and bad construction quality on top of that (which is too common in   
   > Portugal) usually is fertile ground for humid conditions indoors.   
      
   Humidity is high in Cartagena. Winter temps are mild, maybe down to 8°C,   
   14°C more common (during the nights). Rarely, years in between, it may   
   snow. Freezing is rare now, my mother said that a pail of water would   
   freeze by night on the surface when I was a baby.   
      
   But humidity with moderate cold feels very cold, no matter how many   
   coats you wear.   
      
   This noon, a street near my house by a tall building (less than 8   
   levels), going west to east had a completely wet floor, and slippery. My   
   hygrometer says it is 70..80% (two sensors) outside. 16.3°C/61% inside.   
      
   This area of Cartagena was a swamp in Roman times. You dig an   
   underground parking, and you have to constantly pump saline water out.   
   For life. My house is about a century old, raised about a meter over the   
   land level. The outer walls are stone and mortar, quite dry. But an   
   inner wall (structural) is made with solid bricks and it draws humidity up.   
      
   --   
   Cheers,   
           Carlos E.R.   
      
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