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   NRA 2024 to All   
   Why Are White Gun Owners Trying To Shoot   
   16 Sep 24 02:58:33   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, mn.politics, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics   
   From: X@Y.com   
      
   What we know about the Trump attack and the suspect   
      
   The incident comes almost exactly two months after a shooting at a Trump   
   rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, which left Trump wounded and one supporter   
   dead.   
      
   Details are still emerging from the latest incident and about the suspect,   
   named by US media as Ryan Routh. Here is what we know so far.   
   How was the suspect spotted?   
      
   The incident unfolded at the Trump International Golf Club in West Palm   
   Beach, about 15 minutes from Trump's Florida residence, Mar-a-Lago.   
      
   The gunman was first seen by Secret Service agents, who were sweeping the   
   course ahead of the former president as he played. The agents usually go   
   one hole ahead to perform security checks, according to police.   
      
   The muzzle of a rifle - initially described as an AK-47-style rife by   
   County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw - was spotted sticking through the shrubbery   
   that lines the course. At the time Trump was about 300-500 yards (272-557m)   
   away from the gunman, he said.   
      
   An agent “immediately engaged” with the person holding the rifle, who fled,   
   Sheriff Bradshaw said.   
      
   "The Secret Service did exactly what should have been done."   
   A map of Trump's golf course   
   How was the suspect caught?   
      
   Agents opened fire when they spotted the gunman and fired four to five   
   rounds of ammunition.   
      
   The suspect dropped the rifle and fled in a vehicle, abandoning the weapon   
   along with two knapsacks, a scope used for aiming a weapon and a GoPro   
   camera, Sheriff Bradshaw said.   
      
   A witness saw the man flee from the shrubbery to a black Nissan, the   
   sheriff said. The witness captured a photo of the car and provided it to   
   law enforcement.   
      
   The suspect was apprehended by police driving northbound on the I-95   
   highway after crossing into Martin County, roughly 55km (34 miles) from   
   Trump's golf course.   
      
   Several law enforcement sources have told the BBC's US partner, CBS News,   
   that the suspect's name is Ryan Wesley Routh.   
   Who is Ryan Routh?   
      
   Details on the suspect's history are slowly emerging.   
      
   Speaking to US media, Mr Routh's son, Oran, described him as a "loving and   
   caring father".   
      
   "I don’t know what has happened in Florida, and I hope things have just   
   been blown out of proportion, because from the little I’ve heard it doesn’t   
   sound like the man I know to do anything crazy, much less violent," Oran   
   said in a statement to CNN.   
      
   BBC Verify has found social media profiles matching that name. They   
   indicate that Routh called for foreign fighters to go to Ukraine to battle   
   against Russian forces.   
      
   There are also pro-Palestinian, pro-Taiwan and anti-China messages on his   
   profile, including allegations about Chinese “biological warfare” and   
   references to the Covid-19 virus as an “attack”.   
      
   Mr Routh, who had no military experience, told the New York Times in 2023   
   he had travelled to Ukraine immediately after Russia's invasion in 2022 to   
   find military recruits among Afghan soldiers who had fled the Taliban.   
      
   "We can probably purchase some passports through Pakistan, since it's such   
   a corrupt country," he said.   
      
   Mr Routh also told the Times that he had a meeting in Washington DC with   
   the US Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe "for two hours" to   
   help secure more support for Ukraine.   
      
   He seems to have been involved in recruitment efforts as recently as this   
   summer, writing on Facebook in July: "Soldiers, please do not call me. We   
   are still trying to get Ukraine to accept Afghan soldiers and hope to have   
   some answers in the coming months... please have patience."   
      
   Early reporting suggests Mr Routh had a criminal record. According to CBS   
   sources, Ryan Routh was charged and convicted of numerous felony offences   
   in Guilford County in North Carolina between 2002 and 2010.   
      
   The offences include including carrying a concealed weapon, resisting   
   arrest by a police officer, driving with a revoked licence, possession of   
   stolen property and hit and run with a motor vehicle.   
   Getty Images Palm Beach County Sheriff PIO Teri Barber holds photographs of   
   the rifle and other items found near where a suspect was discovered during   
   a press conference regarding an apparent assassination attempt of former   
   President Donald Trump on September 15, 2024, in West Palm Beach,   
   Florida.Getty Images   
   Officials showed images of the suspect's belongings during a news   
   conference   
   What happened to Trump?   
      
   Trump was not injured during the incident. His campaign team initially said   
   there were "gunshots in his vicinity".   
      
   Shortly after the incident was confirmed by his campaign team, the   
   Republican issued a statement to his fundraising list, which read: "There   
   were gunshots in my vicinity, but before rumours start spiralling out of   
   control, I wanted you to hear this first: I AM SAFE AND WELL".   
      
       LIVE: Trump targeted in apparent assassination attempt at golf course,   
   says FBI   
      
   A later campaign email quoted Trump as saying his "resolve is only stronger   
   after another attempt on my life".   
   What happens next?   
      
   During the same news conference, Jeffrey Veltri from the FBI Miami Field   
   Office said the bureau was leading investigations alongside other law   
   enforcement agencies.   
      
   "We’ve deployed a number of resources, including investigative teams,   
   crisis response team members, bomb technicians and evidence response team   
   members," Veltri said, adding that the "full resources of the FBI"   
   alongside the US Secret Service, the Palm Beach Sheriff's office and Martin   
   County Sheriff's office were mobilised.   
      
   The White House said President Joe Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris,   
   who is the Democratic presidential candidate, had been briefed about the   
   incident and were relieved to know that he was safe.   
      
   "Violence has no place in America," Harris said in a post on social media.   
      
   Leaders from the bipartisan congressional task force set up to investigate   
   the 13 July assassination attempt in Pennsylvania said they were thankful   
   the former president was not harmed, "but remain deeply concerned about   
   political violence and condemn it in all of its forms".   
      
   Republican congressman Mike Kelly and Democrat Jason Crow said the task   
   force has requested a briefing with the Secret Service to understand "what   
   happened and how security responded".   
      
   Secret Service's Rafael Barros told reporters on Sunday measures had been   
   taken since the previous assassination attempt and "the threat level is   
   high".   
      
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