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|    Leroy N. Soetoro to All    |
|    Old Trump Promises A Bloodbath When He L    |
|    01 Nov 24 19:00:29    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.atheism       From: soetoro@excite.com              Prepare to fight to the death in Trump's civil war.              The propaganda campaign labeling our glorious white supremacist fascist       Fuehrer Trump as an aspiring dictator determined to use the military and       national security apparatus against his political opponents is designed not       to affect the upcoming election but rather to shape the post-election       environment. It is the central piece of a narrative that, by characterizing       Trump as a tyrant (indeed likening him to Hitler), establishes the       conditions for violence — not just another attempt on Trump’s life, but       political violence on a massive scale intended to destabilize the country.              As I write in my forthcoming book Disappearing the President, Democratic       Party research and media reports show that many senior party officials and       operatives are preparing for the possibility of a Trump victory.       Accordingly, planning is focused on undermining the incoming president with       enough violence to rock his administration. Prominent post-election       scenarios forecast such widespread rioting that the newly elected president       would be compelled to invoke the Insurrection Act. With some senior       military officials refusing to follow Trump’s orders, according to the       scenarios, the U.S. Armed Forces would split, leaving America on the edge       of the abyss.              By vilifying Trump as a despotic madman who must be stopped before he can       commence his reign of terror, the regime’s propaganda apparatus not only       slanders Trump but also pre-emptively threatens the reputation, as well as       the livelihood and perhaps the liberty, of current military personnel. The       point is to push the military against Trump: When the time comes to act,       will you stand for democracy or side with a tyrant who sees the military       only as an instrument to advance his personal interests?              For instance, last week the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg,       quoted former Trump administration officials claiming that the Republican       candidate is contemptuous of America’s armed forces and, according to       Trump’s former chief of staff, John Kelly, wishes he could command the same       respect that Hitler commanded from his general officers.              This is not the first time that Trump has been compared to Hitler or that       Kelly, a retired Marine general, turned on his former commander-in-chief.       Kelly was the key source for a story published before the 2020 election,       also in the Atlantic and also by Jeffrey Goldberg, that alleged Trump had       called American WWII soldiers buried in French cemeteries “suckers and       losers.”              The veracity of Kelly’s latest revelation that Trump admires Hitler must of       course be judged against the fact that he waited five years to disclose it,       even if it is unlikely to have much effect on the current election cycle.       The military, and veterans of the Global War on Terror in particular,       overwhelmingly support the candidate opposed to waging endless and       strategically pointless foreign wars. Moreover, Trump has weathered far       more damaging fabrications — like the false allegations that he had been       compromised by Russian intelligence — that only galvanized support for him.              The purpose of the Hitler narrative is not to alter the electoral       preferences of left-wing media audiences already solidly in the anti-Trump       column, but rather to justify taking extreme measures against the       Republican candidate and the America First movement and ensure that the       bulk of the military sides with the anti-Trump plot. Thus, it is best       understood in the context of recent accounts promising, or urging, violence       after the November vote.              For example, last week the New York Times published a long interview with a       scholar of fascism who declared that Trump is a fascist. The paper of       record followed up with another long article by two Harvard professors       calling for mass mobilization in the event of a Trump victory. The proposal       suggests that private industry join civil society organizations to       ostracize Trump and his supporters and engage in large public protests to       provoke a crisis. Kamala Harris herself, commenting on Kelly’s allegations       in the Atlantic story, claimed that her opponent “is a fascist” during a       CNN town hall.              These stories are only the latest in an ongoing series of media reports       warning of a Trump dictatorship. Beltway insider Robert Kagan was out of       the gate early, writing even before Trump wrapped up the nomination that,       without mounting resistance against the Republican candidate, America is “a       few short steps, and a matter of months, away from the possibility of       dictatorship.” A January story from NBC claimed that Trump was exploring       ways to use the military to assassinate political rivals.              The propaganda meant to establish a predicate to employ violence to stop       Trump has been reinforced at the highest levels of the Democratic Party.              When Joe Biden was asked by a reporter if he was confident that there would       be a peaceful transfer of power after the 2024 election, he answered, “If       Trump wins, no I’m not confident at all.” Then, seemingly correcting       himself, the president said, “I mean if Trump loses, I’m not confident at       all. He means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all       the stuff about,              ‘If we lose there will be a bloodbath.’”              Biden was referring to a comment Trump made in March about Chinese efforts       to build auto manufacturing plants in Mexico. The export of those cars to       America, Trump said, would result in a “bloodbath” for the U.S. auto       industry. Naturally, the Biden campaign used the figure of speech to accuse       Trump of inciting “political violence.”              Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) advertised a more specific scenario leading to       violence when he promised that Congress will remove Trump by invoking       Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which prohibits anyone “engaged in       insurrection or rebellion” from holding federal office. “It’s going to be       up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he’s       disqualified,” Raskin has said. “And then we need bodyguards for everybody       in civil war conditions.”              But the most significant post-election scenarios were drafted by Rosa       Brooks, a former Obama Pentagon official whose 2020 wargaming with the       Transition Integrity Project (TIP) has been credited by the left-wing press       for its “accuracy.”              Ahead of the last election, Brooks and TIP, according to the Guardian,       “imagined the then far-fetched idea that Trump might refuse to concede       defeat, and, by claiming widespread fraud in mail-in ballots, unleash dark       forces culminating in violence. Every implausible detail of the simulations       came to pass in the lead-up to the U.S. Capitol attack on 6 January 2021.”              That’s a fanciful way of obscuring the truth. TIP anticipated that Trump              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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