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   Message 43,772 of 44,057   
   P. Coonan to All   
   Re: Californians rejected an anti-slaver   
   27 Feb 25 00:50:12   
   
   XPost: alt.society.liberalism, ca.politics, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: sac.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: nospam@ix.netcom.com   
      
   On 26 Feb 2025, "Scout"    
   posted some news:vpn50j$2j1cp$2@dont-email.me:   
      
   >   
   >   
   > "Leroy N. Soetoro"  wrote in   
   > message news:lnsB2918F365A2F36F089P2473@0.0.0.2...   
   >> https://calmatters.org/justice/2025/02/anti-slavery-amendment-2/   
   >>   
   >> California's Legislative Black Caucus and the Reparations Task Force   
   >> continue their fight to scrape away at the last vestiges of legalized   
   >> slavery remaining within the state constitution.   
   >>   
   >> Assemblymember Lori Wilson, a Democrat from Suisun City, this month   
   >> introduced a new constitutional amendment aimed at abolishing the   
   >> everyday de facto slavery practices that persist inside California   
   >> prisons.   
   >>   
   >> Last November, a similar attempt - Proposition 6, failed at the   
   >> ballot box despite not having any formal opposition. With 47% of   
   >> California voters in favor of removing language from the state   
   >> constitution that allows prison administrators to force incarcerated   
   >> individuals to work under threat of disciplinary consequences, Wilson   
   >> and a league of co-authors and sponsors hope to get the revised   
   >> version back in front of voters in 2026.   
   >>   
   >> "We're doing this again and going back because we felt like it was a   
   >> moral obligation and a righteous thing to do," said Wilson.   
   >>   
   >> The text of the new amendment would focus more narrowly on the word   
   >> "slavery," avoiding references to "discipline" against prisoners and   
   >> to "involuntary servitude." Backers of the amendment believe that   
   >> language left many potential Prop. 6 supporters confused.   
   >   
   > No, I think the part they understood quite well was "except as   
   > punishment for a crime."   
   >   
   > I think most people believe criminals should be punished and if doing   
   > work will help reduce the public's cost to punish wrong doers.. so   
   > much the better.   
   >   
   > If people don't want to be subject to such, they simply have to OBEY   
   > THE LAW.   
   >   
   > Prison should be hard, prison should be uncomfortable, prison should   
   > require you to work to support your incarceration.   
   >   
   > In short, you should hate being in prison and the more you hate it,   
   > the less likely you are to commit crimes that will send you there.   
      
   Exactly.  Sheriff Joe had the right idea.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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