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 Message 8104 
 August Abolins to Christian Jacob 
 Asia/Asian? 
 14 Mar 22 09:34:00 
 
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Hello Christian!

** On Monday 14.03.22 - 08:34, you wrote to Carol:

 >>>>> Getting started with Telegram is just TWO steps:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> [1] Install Telegram
 >>>>> [2] Send %HELP and %LIST to the @Fido2telebot to get
 >>> started!
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Do Aftershock/HotdogEd make it easier than that?  :D


 CJ> ALthough FidoNet is not as popular as in the 20s anymore
 CJ> and I really do understand that people who actually still
 CJ> use it would love to see more users come back or even
 CJ> experience FidoNet the first time, I don't think that
 CJ> telegram is the best way.

Telegram (+ @Fido2telebot) may not be the best final solution..
but it's a useful option and a step forward to reach smartphone
users.


 CJ> It IS modern and well adopted, but personally, I don't
 CJ> trust telegram. Also, this platform has quite a tendency
 CJ> to attract people with kind of a weird view on the world.

User's of Telegram don't get any of the "weird view" channels  
unless they actually look for then and join them.  There are no  
ads promoting that stuff unlike the "Suggestions" system found  
on Facebook for example.  You can be certain that Facebook is  
to be trusted much less than Telegram.  ;)

The Fidonet groups are private. In otherwords, searching for  
"asian_link" in the standard S)earch feature won't turn  
anything up.  Prospective participants need to use the  
specially crafted invite-link that the @Fido2telebot provides  
following the %LINK command.

This privacy also makes sure that no robots or spammers can  
post anything.

The one for this echo is:

ASIAN_LINK (https://t.me/+TlC5K7EkqxOR8E4u) - ASIAN_LINK is a  
friendly international Fidonet chat echo.  All are welcome to  
participate.

You can see the little intro-page on the web before you join!


 CJ> Lately, I thought that reviving FidoNet especially in the
 CJ> eastern reagion of Zone 2 would allow people from
 CJ> respective countries to communicate with the "outside"
 CJ> world bypassing their governments' control over the
 CJ> internet.

Telegram on it's own can also be used to make live-voice  
"calls" between contacts.  It's rather quite efficient that  
way.

 CJ> Solutions such as Telegram would not fit into that idea
 CJ> though. :)

I'll use it to primarily have it notify me when a post is made  
in a favourite echo. Then, it's a quick way to just take a look  
at the messages from the convenience of the phone that might be  
my my beside.

If I want to engage in a reply, I simply use the desktop  
version of the app on my computer - as I am doing now - 'cuz  
typing all this is much easier with a full-size keyboard.

As people are introduced to the content on some basic Fidonet  
echos, hopefully they can be steered toward other tools (nntp,  
offline readers, bbsing, etc) to get a more emmersive  
experience of echomail - if they want - just as you have done  
with the newly revived and well-supported Winpoint!


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  ../|ug

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