ml> i've said it before and it always seems to be true... even with decent
ml> knife sets... it all comes down to using "cheap" chinese stainless 
ml> steel... more specifically that which has larger chunks of carbon 
ml> in the mix... after a time, this carbon starts breaking out and 
ml> then you have a hole that gets worse and worse unti lit breaks...

 MH> I don't think these were ever made out of stainless steel.  Seems
 MH> to be cost cutting - and have seen this will all the automakers.  

yep... the bean counters have infested everything... the cost of greed and
forcing folks to buy a product again after X years plus paying more attention
to making $$$ for stockholders has driven the quality of goods down and the
cost of those goods up...

 MH> Part of it I think is because they really don't want the vehicles
 MH> to last. They want you to buy new ones every 3-5 years.  I don't
 MH> fit that mold. 

that's exactly what it is... you're not the only one that doesn't fit that
mold, too... there are many but they don't voice their disapproval... at least
not in a way as to bring the quality back and the items last longer like they
used to do...

 MH> Speaking of the rust issue, cheap outdoor grills (and even some
 MH> expensive ones) do the same thing.  

yup... most of them are of chinese manufacture these days, too...

 MH> If it is something that will be outside in the elements and you
 MH> want it to last, you must use materials that don't rust.

exactly...

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