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|  Message 1625  |
|  TOM WALKER to ROY WITT  |
|  Ow!  |
|  29 Mar 13 11:18:00  |
 RW>TOM WALKER wrote to ROY WITT: RW>Mine says the same thing. It even has 4 stages of procedures to check the RW>AC system. However, it doesn't have a procedure to check out why the RW>radiator fans don't engage as the engine temps get higher than normal RW>operating temps when the PCM detects that the system is low on freon. Since the Engine temperature function has priority so the fans should have run in high speed. Since it did not it indicatas either a bad engine block sensor, a problem with one of the Relays, or an unusual problem with the vehicle speed input to the PCM. RW> TW> From the service manual of a 1998 5.7L F-car (Camaro/Firebird) here RW> TW> is the descriptio of the cooling fan controls RW> TW> Engine Cooling Fan Description - Electric RW> TW> The electric cooling fans are used to cool engine coolant flowing RW> TW> through the radiator. The fans are also used to cool the refrigerant RW> TW> flowing through the A/C condenser. RW> TW> The electric cooling fans are controlled by the PCM. The PCM controls RW> TW> the ground path for the three cooling fan relays. The relays are used RW> TW> to control the high current flow to power the cooling fan motors. RW> TW> Both fans operate together. When minimum cooling is required, the PCM RW> TW> energizes cooling fan relay #1 and both fans operate at low speed, RW> TW> since the fans are connected in series through cooling fan relay #3. RW> TW> Cooling fan relay #2 is open (not energized) and is not used for low RW> TW> speed operation of the fans. When maximum cooling is required, the RW> TW> PCM energizes all three cooling fan relays. The left fan is still RW> TW> powered through cooling fan relay #1, but is now grounded through RW> TW> cooling fan relay #3. The right fan is now powered directly through RW> TW> cooling fan relay #2 and both fans operated at high speed. RW> TW> The PCM will also enable the cooling fans after the ignition is RW> TW> turned off. When the engine coolant temperature exceeds 113øC (235øF) RW> TW> and the ignition is turned off, the cooling fans will be enabled on RW> TW> low speed for 150 seconds. RW> TW> Cooling Fans RW> TW> The cooling fans are controlled by the PCM based on the RW> TW> following inputs: RW> TW> The A/C system. RW> TW> The Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor. RW> TW> The Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS). RW> TW> Looks like SEPERATE Functions to me controled by a combination of RW> TW> Sensors and Relays. RW> TW> --- RW> TW> þ SLMR 2.1a þ Typo Tom strikes agaoin RW> TW> * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140) RW> R\%/itt RW>--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012 RW> * Origin: Texas Lone-Star - Texan, American, USAian (1:387/22) --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Typo Tom Strkes Again * Origin: Fidonet Since 1991 Join Us: www.DocsPlace.org (1:123/140) |
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