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WD>RN> I wonder what damage the engines suffered?
 
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WD> Ryanair gets lots of flak in Europe but they're well organized, I flew
WD> them dozens of time and never a problem. Once the plane had a birdstrike
WD> and we were barely delayed.
 
A credit to those pilots.
 
WD>RN> Also, the one right after that with the Air Canada flight 85 running
WD>RN> out of fuel at 41,000 feet was most interesting.
 
WD> AC85 is Tel Aviv to Toronto.
 
I believe they were switching from standard to metric at that time, but surely
the pilots had to know from the guages they didn't have enough fuel, so
instead of landing at an airport they could not reach anyway, they chose to
land at an airbase converted into a dragstrip.  That turned out to be
fortuitous because the nose gear wouldn't lock in place.  

WD> Make that AC143 and we're alright.
 
Okay.
 
WD> But they still had land to put their wheels down on.
 
See above.  (-:
 
WD> More critical is a similar situation with air Transat 236 from Toronto to
WD> Lisbon in 2001 which ran out of fuel over the Atlantic due to a leak. It
WD> wasn't really made into a book nor in a movie, not spectacular enough but
WD> way more critical as it occured over water.
 
How about The High and the Mighty with John Wayne?  That was over the Pacific.
(-8
 
WD> Here's the pretty accurate reference:
 
WD> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236
 
I'll have a look at that in a bit.
 
WD> The difference, probably, with the 2 recent 737 MAX crashes is that both
WD> crews on those Canadian planes followed the golden rule "fly the plane"
WD> and not start tinkering with computers in case of a problem.
 
I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
I was on a SW flight going from N.O. to Tulsa with two stops en route --
Houston and Dallas.  On (or at) the approach into Houston we were hit with a
wind shear, but the pilots handled it beautifully else I wouldn't be typing
this.  My problem came when I got to Tulsa where there was a 40ø differene in
temperature and almost immediately I came down with the flu.  One of the guys
at the hotel said "You missed all the snow we had last week."  I was freezing.
 
 
Regards,
 
Roger

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