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 Message 640 
 Aviation HQ to Rug Rat 
 Re: Used Boeing 747-8s are converted to  
 20 Oct 25 13:59:04 
 
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RR> The FAA will not certify additional Combi's without a fixed bulkhead and
RR> integrated fire supression, which other combi's like the 737, 747 did not
RR> have.  Protocol for fighting a cargo file on a combi was to have the
RR> cabin crew fight it with portable fire extinguishers.  (This came about
RR> after the South African Airways fire..)..
 
While you are correct on the South African crash, noteworthy is that it was a
747-200 and subsequently the fire-fighting capabilities in the 747-400
combi's, like they were flown by e.g. KLM, were upgraded. The bulkhead? yes
... that would have been very tricky ...
 
Nevertheless. the FAA remainded opposed to their usage, not out of safety
concern.
 
As a noteworthy addition, during the Covid19 pandemic KLM was flying full-pax
747s between China and the Netherlands to transport large quantities of
medical supplies ... without passengers. The supplies were also stored in the
passenger cabin. As a result the full cabin crew was on board just in case of
fires.
 
And Delta flying daily four passenger 767s into Brussels to collect the Covid
vaccines which were produced by Pfizer in Puurs (Belgium), also flew with no
passengers and a full cabin crew for safety.

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