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|    The death knell for liberalism is ringin    |
|    21 Aug 13 04:06:45    |
      XPost: soc.culture.canada, ba.politics, seattle.politics       XPost: dc.politics       From: too_many_koonz@yahoo.com              Last month, General Abdul Fattah al-Sisi, head of the Supreme       Council of the Armed Forces and Egypt’s new military strongman,       asked Egyptians to “come out to give me the mandate and order to       confront violence and potential terrorism.” What al-Sisi sought       was a green light from the Egyptian street to put down the       Muslim Brotherhood, whose supporters were still protesting on       behalf of the country’s first elected President, Brotherhood       member Mohamed Morsi, whom al-Sisi removed from office and       jailed on July 3.              Today, al-Sisi put his mandate to work when security forces       attacked demonstrators in Cairo, Alexandria and other cities and       villages throughout Egypt. At this point, 278 people are       confirmed dead nationwide. Only time will tell if al-Sisi has       eradicated the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies, but the death       knell is already ringing for another of Egypt’s famous political       movements: liberalism.              Mohamed ElBaradei, former head of the International Atomic       Energy Agency and the face of Egyptian liberalism, resigned on       account of Wednesday’s violence, but the reality is that many of       those Egyptians who define themselves as liberals supported the       July coup as well as today’s crackdown. “Egypt’s liberals are       trying to ignore the fact that people are being murdered,” says       Samuel Tadros, an Egypt expert and a fellow at Hudson       Institute’s Center for Religious Freedom. In doing so, Tadros       told me in a recent interview, they have lost any claim to a       moral high ground. “For liberalism to succeed, it needs to       explain why this political worldview is superior to others. It’s       not just about the material benefits of economic liberalism, but       why it’s better for man. Man, after all, does not live by bread       alone. Here, Egyptian liberalism has failed completely. The       liberals in support of the coup and the violent crackdown have       abandoned morality for short-term political gains.”              It’s understandable that many Egyptians are concerned about the       Muslim Brotherhood’s religiously fundamentalist and paranoid       worldview. But the fact that people who describe themselves as       liberals want to see their neighbors’ blood shed suggests that       their liberalism isn’t what we typically mean by a political       doctrine that prizes individual freedom and seeks as little       interference from the state as possible. The reality is that       Egypt’s liberals have aligned themselves with the military — the       very same regime that they protested against during the 2011       uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak.              Why have liberals turned from democracy, albeit a very imperfect       one, back to the military? As Tadros explains in his new book,       Motherland Lost: The Egyptian and Coptic Quest for Modernity,       Egypt’s liberals have always depended on the state for their       advancement, for education, employment and social status. “In       Egypt,” Tadros tells me, “liberalism didn’t start as it did in       Europe with the emergence of an independent bourgeoisie that       sought to limit the powers of the state and other entrenched       institutions. In Egypt, liberalism was born with the rise of the       civil-servant class in the mid–19th century. Since civil       servants are a part of the state, this liberalism is not at all       interested in limiting the role of the state.”              Moreover, whereas Western liberals have historically seen it as       their role to educate their fellow citizens in liberal values,       Egyptian liberals have always seen this as the job of the state.       Should the state prove incapable of inculcating others with the       same ideas and ambitions, then it is up to the state to protect       the liberals from what they perceive as the unwashed masses,       i.e., their neighbors. And right now it is the Muslim Brothers       and their Islamist partners whom the liberals see as a threat       that needs to be put down.              In addition to acting in bad faith, the liberals have made a bad       deal by siding with the army. Because the liberals never       prepared the ground for liberalism, they left it wide open for       the Islamists, who over 80 years built a grassroots network that       combined political indoctrination with social services that       earned them respect and admiration — which is why Morsi won the       presidential election in June 2012. In spite of al-Sisi’s       crackdown, the Muslim Brotherhood will almost surely return —       and next time better organized and, holding a vendetta against       the army and the millions who clamored for the Brotherhood’s       blood, much angrier. In the meantime, as Tadros argues, “it’s       the Muslim Brotherhood, and not the liberals, who can claim the       moral high ground.”              http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/14/egyptian-liberals-are-out-for-       blood/              Laugh! Laugh! Laugh!              It doesn't matter. The Muslims and liberals are both going to       wind up dead.                             --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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