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|    23 Dec 14 09:26:35    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: bdickman@usa.com              There is growing outrage among sailors and religious liberty       advocates over a directive that calls for the removal of Bibles       from lodges and hotels run on U.S. Navy bases. The directive       comes after an atheist group filed a formal complaint earlier       this year over the placement of Bibles in the rooms.              "The current direction is to remove all religious material from       Navy Lodge guest rooms," read an email to a Navy chaplain from       The Navy Exchange Service Command (NEXCOM). "For those Navy       Lodges with religious materials currently in guest rooms, the       Navy Lodge General Manager will contact the Installation       Chaplain's office who will provide guidance on the removal       procedure disposition of these materials."              Follow Todd on Facebook for Conservative commentary - click here!              Http://Facebook.com/toddstarnesFNC              An active duty service member contacted me and alerted me the       Bibles were being taken out of hotel rooms and a lodge       housekeeper told American Family Association the same thing.              The American Family Association received an exclusive copy of a       similar directive from NEXCOM, the organization that manages the       lodges.              "The Navy Lodge General Manager should advise the Installation       Commanding Officer of our intention to work through the       chaplain's office to determine what installation policy is and       the method to remove religious material currently in the guest       rooms," read a directive approved by Michael Bockelman, the vice       president of NEXCOM and the director of the Navy Lodge Program.              JOIN TODD ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSERVATIVE CONVERSATION! CLICK HERE       TO JOIN!              In other words, they've got to figure out a way to dispose of       God's Word.              I contacted NEXCOM spokesperson Kathleen Martin hoping to get       the inside scoop. Yes or no -- are Bibles being removed from       Navy-run lodges? Martin dodged my question and to be quite       frank, gave me the runaround. She refused, on numerous       occasions, to explain the whereabouts of the lodge Bibles.              "Lodge managers are coordinating with base chaplains regarding       the disposition of all religious material," she said.              Martin said the directive will impact about 40 Navy lodges       around the world.              "We looked at our policy -- and realized there wasn't a       consistent policy regarding Navy Lodges," she told me. "We       decided we needed to have some consistency and be consistent       with the Navy."              I figured I would try one more time. Yes or no -- will the Navy       allow Bibles to be placed in Navy lodges? Martin refused to       answer the question.              The order was hailed by the Freedom From Religious Foundation.       The FFRF had filed a complaint with the military -- claiming the       presence of the Bible "amounts to a government endorsement of       that religious text."              "FFRF is pleased to learn that NEXCOM has taken seriously its       constitutional obligation to remain neutral toward religion as a       representative of our federal government," FFRF Sam Grover told       me. "By removing Bibles from Navy-run lodges, the Navy has taken       a step to ensure that it is not sending the impermissible       message that Christians are favored over guests with other       religious beliefs or over those guests with no religion."              The Bibles had been placed in the rooms, free of charge, by       Gideons International.              An active duty service member contacted me and alerted me the       Bibles were being taken out of hotel rooms and a lodge       housekeeper told American Family Association the same thing.              "They told us to put them in boxes where they would be taken to       a donation center somewhere," the housekeeper told AFA.              The Navy even has a plan in the event, heaven forbid, a guest       leaves behind their Bible.              "All religious materials left by a Navy Lodge guest, in the       future, will be dealt with following established procedures for       lost and found property," the directive states.              FFRF said they were alerted to the Bible controversy by "two       concerned service members."              "One complainant noted that he 'never saw a Book of Mormon or       Koran' in any Navy-run lodge," read an FFRF letter to the Navy.              Mikey Weinstein, the president of the Military Religious Freedom       Foundation, told me he was delighted to hear of the Navy's       directive. His organization has been trying for more than seven       years to cleanse military hotel rooms of the Good Book.              "We are happy to see the military doing that," Weinstein said.       "For years we've been telling them those Bibles are a violation       of the Establishment Clause."              Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for       Religious Liberty, blasted the Navy for removing the Bibles.              "This is just one more assault by military leaders against       anything Christian," Crews told me. "It's getting tiresome to       see senior military leaders cave in to those who appear to be       offended by Christians, by Christian symbols and now by the       Bible itself."              Crews said there's nothing wrong with allowing the Gideons to       place Bibles in Navy lodges -- at no cost to the Navy.              "Our military service men and women have every right to look at       literature in hotel rooms -- including the Scriptures," he said.              http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/08/11/navy-removes-bibles-       from-guest-rooms/?intcmp=obnetwork                             --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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