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|    After Obama Care Surgery, Surprise $117,    |
|    23 Dec 14 10:50:42    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: obamacare@sucks.com              Before his three-hour neck surgery for herniated disks in       December, Peter Drier, 37, signed a pile of consent forms. A       bank technology manager who had researched his insurance       coverage, Mr. Drier was prepared when the bills started       arriving: $56,000 from Lenox Hill Hospital in Manhattan, $4,300       from the anesthesiologist and even $133,000 from his       orthopedist, who he knew would accept a fraction of that fee.              He was blindsided, though, by a bill of about $117,000 from an       “assistant surgeon,” a Queens-based neurosurgeon whom Mr. Drier       did not recall meeting.              “I thought I understood the risks,” Mr. Drier, who lives in New       York City, said later. “But this was just so wrong — I had no       choice and no negotiating power.”              In operating rooms and on hospital wards across the country,       physicians and other health providers typically help one another       in patient care. But in an increasingly common practice that       some medical experts call drive-by doctoring, assistants,       consultants and other hospital employees are charging patients       or their insurers hefty fees. They may be called in when the       need for them is questionable. And patients usually do not       realize they have been involved or are charging until the bill       arrives.              The practice increases revenue for physicians and other health       care workers at a time when insurers are cutting down       reimbursement for many services. The surprise charges can be       especially significant because, as in Mr. Drier’s case, they may       involve out-of-network providers who bill 20 to 40 times the       usual local rates and often collect the full amount, or a       substantial portion.              “The notion is you can make end runs around price controls by       increasing the number of things you do and bill for,” said Dr.       Darshak Sanghavi, a health policy expert at the Brookings       Institution until recently. This contributes to the nation’s       $2.8 trillion in annual health costs.              Insurers, saying the surprise charges have proliferated, have       filed lawsuits challenging them. In recent years, unexpected out-       of-network charges have become the top complaint to the New York       State agency that regulates insurance companies. Multiple state       health insurance commissioners have tried to limit patients’       liability, but lobbying by the health care industry sometimes       stymies their efforts.              “This has gotten really bad, and it’s wrong,” said James J.       Donelon, the Republican insurance commissioner of Louisiana.       “But when you try to address it as a policy maker, you run into       a hornet’s nest of financial interests.”              In Mr. Drier’s case, the primary surgeon, Dr. Nathaniel L.       Tindel, had said he would accept a negotiated fee determined       through Mr. Drier’s insurance company, which ended up being       about $6,200. (Mr. Drier had to pay $3,000 of that to meet his       deductible.) But the assistant, Dr. Harrison T. Mu, was out of       network and sent the $117,000 bill. Insurance experts say       surgeons and assistants sometimes share proceeds from       operations, but Dr. Tindel’s office says he and Dr. Mu do not.       Dr. Mu’s office did not respond to requests for comment.              The phenomenon can take many forms. In some instances, a patient       may be lying on a gurney in the emergency room or in a hospital       bed, unaware that all of the people in white coats or scrubs who       turn up at the bedside will charge for their services. At times,       a fully trained physician is called in when a resident or a       nurse, who would not charge, would have sufficed. Services that       were once included in the daily hospital rate are now often       provided by contractors, and even many emergency rooms are       staffed by out-of-network physicians who bill separately.              Patricia Kaufman’s bills after a recent back operation at a Long       Island hospital were rife with such charges, said her husband,       Alan, who spent days sorting them out. Two plastic surgeons       billed more than $250,000 to sew up the incision, a task done by       a resident during previous operations for Ms. Kaufman’s chronic       neurological condition.              In the days after the operation, “a parade of doctors came by       saying, ‘How are you,’ and they could be out of network or in       network,” Mr. Kaufman said. “And then you get their bills. Who       called them? Who are they?”              Doctors’ offices often pursue patients for payment. Ms.       Kaufman’s insurer paid about $10,000 to the plastic surgeons,       who then sent a bill for the remainder. The couple, of Highland       Park, N.J., refused to pay.              When insurers intervene in a particular case, they say they have       limited ability to fight back. Insurance examiners “are not in       the room on the day of surgery to see the second surgeon walk       into the room or why they were needed,” said Clare Krusing, a       spokeswoman for America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry       group. And current laws do not require hospitals that join an       insurance network to provide in-network doctors, labs or X-rays,       for example.              Out-of-Network Rates Drive Unexpected Medical Costs       When out-of-network physicians perform hospital procedures,       hefty charges can be added to medical bills. Insurers often pay       the full amount or large portions, which provides an incentive       for doctors to include out-of-network colleagues.              So sometimes insurers just pay — to protect their customers,       they say — which encourages the practice. When Mr. Drier       complained to his insurer, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, that       he should not have to pay the out-of-network assistant surgeon,       Anthem agreed it was not his responsibility. Instead, the       company cut a check to Dr. Mu for $116,862, the full amount.              Unexpected Fees              When Mr. Drier agreed to surgery in December, he was not in a       good position to bargain or shop around. Several weeks earlier,       he had woken up to excruciating pain in his upper back and       numbness and weakness in two fingers of his left hand, which       persisted. A scan showed that one of the disks that normally       serve as cushions between vertebrae was herniated and pushing on       a nerve. With a busy job and social life, he was living on       painkillers.              The rate of spinal surgery in the United States is about twice       that in Europe and Canada, and five times that in Britain, said       Dr. Richard A. Deyo of Oregon Health and Science University, who       studies international comparisons. Studies are limited but have       generally concluded that after two years, patients who have       surgery for disk problems do no better than those treated with       painkillers and physical therapy — although the pain, which can       be debilitating, resolves far more rapidly with surgery.              The United States has more neurosurgeons per capita than almost       any other developed country, and they compete with orthopedists       for spinal surgery. At the same time, Medicare and private       insurers have reduced payments to surgeons. The average base       salary for neurosurgeons decreased to $590,000 in 2014 from       $630,000 in 2010, according to Merritt Hawkins, a physician       staffing firm.              To counter that trend, some spinal surgeons have turned to              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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