Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    az.general    |    What goes on in exciting Arizona...    |    2,973 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 1,756 of 2,973    |
|    kenny to All    |
|    Ha! Ha! Obama voting liberals face post-    |
|    24 Dec 14 02:24:53    |
      XPost: ba.politics, dc.media, soc.penpals       XPost: alt.burningman       From: invalid@no-email.com              (Reuters) - Many thousands of Americans who lost their homes in       the housing bust, but have since begun to rebuild their       finances, are suddenly facing a new foreclosure nightmare: debt       collectors are chasing them down for the money they still owe by       freezing their bank accounts, garnishing their wages and seizing       their assets.              By now, banks have usually sold the houses. But the proceeds of       those sales were often not enough to cover the amount of the       loan, plus penalties, legal bills and fees. The two big       government-controlled housing finance companies, Fannie Mae and       Freddie Mac, as well as other mortgage players, are increasingly       pressing borrowers to pay whatever they still owe on mortgages       they defaulted on years ago.              Using a legal tool known as a "deficiency judgment," lenders can       ensure that borrowers are haunted by these zombie-like debts for       years, and sometimes decades, to come. Before the housing       bubble, banks often refrained from seeking deficiency judgments,       which were seen as costly and an invitation for bad publicity.       Some of the biggest banks still feel that way.              But the housing crisis saddled lenders with more than $1       trillion of foreclosed loans, leading to unprecedented losses.       Now, at least some large lenders want their money back, and they       figure it’s the perfect time to pursue borrowers: many of those       who went through foreclosure have gotten new jobs, paid off old       debts and even, in some cases, bought new homes.              "Just because they don't have the money to pay the entire       mortgage, doesn't mean they don't have enough for a deficiency       judgment," said Florida foreclosure defense attorney Michael       Wayslik.              Advocates for the banks say that the former homeowners ought to       pay what they owe. Consumer advocates counter that deficiency       judgments blast those who have just recovered from financial       collapse back into debt — and that the banks bear culpability       because they made the unsustainable loans in the first place.              “SLAPPED TO THE FLOOR”              Borrowers are usually astonished to find out they still owe       thousands of dollars on homes they haven't thought about for       years.              In 2008, bank teller Danell Huthsing broke up with her boyfriend       and moved out of the concrete bungalow they shared in       Jacksonville, Florida. Her name was on the mortgage even after       she moved out, and when her boyfriend defaulted on the loan, her       name was on the foreclosure papers, too.              She moved to St. Louis, Missouri, where she managed to amass       $20,000 of savings and restore her previously stellar credit       score in her job as a service worker at an Amtrak station.              But on July 5, a process server showed up on her doorstep with a       lawsuit demanding $91,000 for the portion of her mortgage that       was still unpaid after the home was foreclosed and sold. If she       loses, the debt collector that filed the suit can freeze her       bank account, garnish up to 25 percent of her wages, and seize       her paid-off 2005 Honda Accord.              "For seven years you think you're good to go, that you've put       this behind you," said Huthsing, who cleared her savings out of       the bank and stowed the money in a safe to protect it from       getting seized. "Then wham, you get slapped to the floor again."              Bankruptcy is one way out for consumers in this rub. But it has       serious drawbacks: it can trash a consumer's credit report for       up to ten years, making it difficult to get credit cards, car       loans or home financing. Oftentimes, borrowers will instead go       on a repayment plan or simply settle the suits — without       questioning the filings or hiring a lawyer — in exchange for       paying a lower amount.              Though court officials and attorneys in foreclosure-ravaged       regions like Florida, Ohio and Illinois all say the cases are       surging, no one keeps official tabs on the number nationally.       "Statistically, this is a real difficult task to get a handle       on," said Geoff Walsh, an attorney with the National Consumer       Law Center.              Officials in individual counties say that the cases, while       virtually zero a year or two ago, now number in the hundreds in       each county. Thirty-eight states, along with the District of       Columbia, allow financial institutions recourse to claw back       these funds.              "I've definitely noticed a huge uptick," said Cook County,       Illinois homeowner attorney Sandra Emerson. "They didn’t include       language in court motions to pursue these. Now, they do."              "A CURSE"              Three of the biggest mortgage lenders, Bank of America,       Citigroup, (C.N) JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) and Wells Fargo &       Co. (WFC.N), all say that they typically don't pursue deficiency       judgments, though they reserve the right to do so. "We may       pursue them on a case-by-case basis looking at a variety of       factors, including investor and mortgage insurer requirements,       the financial status of the borrower and the type of hardship,"       said Wells Fargo spokesman Tom Goyda. The banks would not       comment on why they avoid deficiency judgments.              Perhaps the most aggressive among the debt pursuers is Fannie       Mae. Of the 595,128 foreclosures Fannie Mae was involved in –       either through owning or guaranteeing the loans - from January       2010 through June 2012, it referred 293,134 to debt collectors       for possible pursuit of deficiency judgments, according to a       2013 report by the Inspector General for the agency’s regulator,       the Federal Housing Finance Agency.              It is unclear how many of the loans that get sent to debt       collectors actually get deficiency judgments, but the IG urged       the FHFA to direct Fannie Mae, along with Freddie Mac, to pursue       more of them from the people who could repay them.              It appears as if Fannie Mae is doing just that. In Florida alone       in the past year, for example, at least 10,000 lawsuits have       been filed — representing hundreds of millions of dollars of       payments, according to Jacksonville, Florida-based attorney Chip       Parker.              Parker is about to file a class action lawsuit against the       Dallas-based debt collection company, Dyck O'Neal, which is       working to recoup the money on behalf of Fannie Mae. The class       action will allege that Dyck O'Neal violated fair debt       collection practices by suing people in the state of Florida who       actually lived out of state. Dyck O'Neal declined to comment.              In Lee County, Florida, for example, Dyck O'Neal only filed four       foreclosure-related deficiency judgment cases last year. So far       this year, it has filed 360 in the county, which has more than       650,000 residents and includes Ft. Myers. The insurer the       Mortgage Guaranty Insurance Company has also filed about 1,000       cases this past year in Florida alone.              Andrew Wilson, a spokesman for Fannie Mae, said the finance       giant is focusing on "strategic defaulters:" those who could       have paid their mortgages but did not. Fannie Mae analyzes       borrowers' ability to repay based on their open credit lines,       assets, income, expenses, credit history, mortgages and       properties, according to the 2013 IG report. "Fannie Mae and              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca