XPost: alt.california, vegas.general, misc.survivalism
XPost: talk.politics.guns
From: JustWondering@hotmail.com
On 2/4/2018 2:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 14:20:55 -0600, !Jones wrote:
>
>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 23:30:32 -0600, in talk.politics.guns PaxPerPoten
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Every once in a while I run across surplus 30.06 armor piercing ammo.
>>> I have no need of such, but am aware that the black tip means armor
>>> piercing. I did not know they also made armor piercing with tracer.
>>> I am however curious as to why armor piercing would be illegal as damned
>>> near any high velocity meeting with a bullet will end a life. As for
>>> body armor...With any high velocity ammo...it goes right through.
>>> I expect the Draft dodging Munitions expert "Cuntinadress" will
>>> straighten us all out on this subject.
>>
>> If it's yellow with a purple tip and two purple axial stripes, that
>> means it's coated with the shells of fertile, wild whooping crane eggs
>> and sells for at least $7,000 a round.
>>
>> And then there are the white ivory bullets made from the tusks of
>> freshly-killed African elephants.
>>
>> Don't forget the depleted uranium bullets. Just think how much more
>> damage Paddock would have inflicted had he used DU instead!
>>
>> My all-time favorite is teflon-coated "black-talon" bullets that
>> expand on impact... thus, you have a "mushrooming" slug that
>> penetrates body armor due to its coating!!! Obviously we need a
>> teflon-coated, black-talon, armor-piercing, depleted uranium, tracer
>> with an explosive tip! ... and a proxy fuze on the tip.
>>
>> ... as any fool with a lick of common sense can plainly see.
>>
>> Jones
>
> I don't know if youi're being serious about Teflon-coated Black
> Talons, but they weren't Teflon-coated. They had some other kind of
> lubrication for barrel protection.
>
> The Teflon coating was for KTW bullets. They were bronze or steel, and
> were for penetrating car windshiels, engine blocks, etc. The Teflon
> was, again, for barrel protection.
>
> Where Pox von Sputum seems to be confused is about the federal law
> concerning "armor-piercing bullets." The law applies only to bullets
> intended for use in handguns. I spelled it out a day or two ago.
>
> The lawmakers knew there was nothing they could do about rifle
> bullets. There was a public outcry when the KTW bullets came to the
> attention of the anti-gunners, who promptly labelled them "cop
> killers." The legislative response was a pure populist knee-jerk PR
> move.
>
> Black Talons are named specifically as prohibited handgun bullets.
> KTWs are not named, but anything that is "hard metal" or that has a
> metal jacket over 25% of the weight of the bullet is labelled "armor
> piercing."
>
> Rifle bullets are unaffected by the legislation.
To clarify, Teflon coated bullets were a real thing, although as you say
Black Talons weren't Teflon coated. The coating wasn't for more
effective terminal ballistics,, it was to reduce barrel wear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon-coated_bullet
Black Talons are not prohibited by federal law. Winchester stopped
making them due to them being wrongly vilified as cop-killers. You can
still buy, own and use them if you can find them. There are half a
dozen kinds of ammo made today that are the same thing.
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/black-talon-todays-self-defense-ammo/
My personal favorite is the Federal HST because you can buy a 50-round
box for about what most brands cost for a 20-round box.
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