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   Intelligent Party to All   
   Regulate Commerce, And We'll Give People   
   20 Apr 20 14:10:20   
   
   XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics   
   XPost: alt.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   And small businesses need loans, to pay their rent and debt and keep the   
   economy   
   stable.  They need no interest, no payment, temporary loans from the   
   government.   
   This means the government is paying the bank's interest income, the landlord's   
   interest income, and the bond holder's interest income, but the economy likely   
   isn't producing as fast.  The stock market is still open, but the revenues   
   likely   
   aren't coming in as fast.  Nevertheless it's not crashed.  Meanwhile, while not   
   negative compounding, due to paying say hypothetically a 4% bond with 0% loan   
   from   
   the government, (the 0% doesn't negatively compound) the businesses will   
   accumulate debt to the government, equal to their interest and principal - the   
   principal part of the debt thus acts the same as a forbearance.  The businesses   
   will just pay that part (and apparently the interest part) over a longer term   
   in   
   the future.   
      
   Meanwhile,   
   Don't allow the government to oppress _non-commercial_ activities, but strong   
   suggestions are welcomed and warranted.   
      
   It is extremely illegal, and offensive to be told you can't go to Church.  I'm   
   not   
   saying you should go, but to follow the Spirit of Truth in you.   
      
   You can't sell poison and say it's water.  You can't employ people to commit   
   self-harm.   
      
   You can't provide a restaurant, except as assisted suicide.  Which is   
   ludicrous.   
   You can't employ a waitress to work as if it's self-enrichment, but only as to   
   commit self-harm.  Which is ludicrous.  The real unemployment situation needs   
   to   
   be recognized and addressed.  If this means giving 150 million people   
   $2,000-$4,000 per month to stay afloat, so be it.  150MM x $30,000 per year =   
   $4.5   
   Trillion added to the National Debt.  That's the cost of it.  We should all   
   bear   
   this burden together.  Stay at home, means what - don't go to work.  Work from   
   home.  Telecommute.  If you make money during this time, you get extra money.   
      
   You need to get out and go for a walk.  We should have the right to use our   
   public   
   parks recognized.  If it means we need to stay 10-15 feet away while standing,   
   and   
   20-30 feet away while sitting, so be it.   
      
   Our parks and our parking lots are ours to use, and our human right.   
      
   It is criminal or negligent to come within the determined number of feet of   
   someone against their will.  I do not have to have anybody about me, and   
   neither   
   do you.  There is no reason to put myself at risk.  People intentionally coming   
   within the determined number of feet are being criminal.  People who are   
   accidentally negligent ought to correct themselves.  That said, two wrongs,   
   don't   
   make a right, just saying.   
      
   It is strongly suggested during COVID you do not associate with strangers at   
   all,   
   and limit the number of people you do associate with entirely.   
      
   -----------------   
   "The Congress shall have Power To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and   
   among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes." - U.S. Constitution,   
   Article I, Section 8, Clause 3   
      
   "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or   
   prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or   
   of   
   the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition   
   the   
   Government for a redress of grievances." - U.S. Constitution, 1st Amendment   
      
      
   Employee and consumer protections matter!   
      
   People prohibited from working better get money from the government!   
   We can't have new people starving, etc.   
      
   Government regulations should always be through commerce unless an offense is   
   committed against another person's rights.  For instance it should be between   
   the   
   government and the store if the store makes people wear face coverings to come   
   in,   
   and between the store and the patrons.  This is regulation of commerce to   
   protect   
   employees and consumers that the store is selling what it says it is selling.    
   Not   
   deceitfully costing consumers and employees in hidden ways.  Like sickness and   
   death.  Commerce is inherently exploitative.  But to take off your mask in the   
   store is NOT a direct offense against the government.  That would at most be   
   trespassing against the store.  The totalitarian falsity of the drug war,   
   notwithstanding.  The drug war is against the law.  Your government should not   
   be   
   at war with you.  Drugs should be marketed as poison and medicine.  If you come   
   within the determined number of feet of someone, they are the offended party,   
   and   
   not the Government.  It is not an offense against the government if you hug   
   your   
   friends.  You do have a right to hug your friends.  This point of distinction   
   matters.  This point of distinction matters to me, and I will not stand for   
   bullshit.  The government is not your God.  Nor are you anyone else's God.   
      
   "God is light and in Him is no darkness at all." - St. John the Divine, 1 John   
   1:5, Holy Bible, New Testament   
   "Child of light... the light is in you" - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 13,   
   Section 6   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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