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   XPost: alt.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   On 10/11/2020 8:19 PM, Intelligent Party wrote:   
   > There is no ghost, nor brain, in the human fetus for the first 14 weeks.  It   
   is   
   > thus immoral to not abort in the first 14 weeks.   
   >   
   > Let us pay any doctor who performs an early term abortion, $1,000 Federal   
   dollars,   
   > so that any woman can just walk in and get an abortion for free, no other   
   > insurance needed.   
   >   
   > Normal gestation is 40 weeks, giving the fetus 26 weeks, or 6 months to   
   develop,   
   > under this plan.  People have memories of the womb five months before birth;   
   it   
   > should thus be considered as if a real baby would die if aborted, after the   
   first   
   > 3-4 months.  These same people, have memories of the afterlife before being   
   in the   
   > womb.  There is life after death, and there is life before life.  You didn't   
   come   
   > out of a zygote.   
   >   
   > If an adult has a right to separate their accidentally connected body from   
   another   
   > adult, if the other shall die, is how the question should be looked at, in   
   the   
   > second trimester on, though the ghost enters the fetus at various times   
   subsequent   
   > to the first trimester, and in some cases, not until the moment of birth.    
   You   
   > must presume somebody may die after the first trimester, because somebody   
   may.   
   >   
   > Anti-abortion has been winning, and there are half as many abortions now,   
   700,000   
   > per year, as in the 1990's, 1,400,000 per year, and overpopulation is the   
   scourge   
   > of our nation!   
   >   
   > There are 1.5 million unplanned children, born every year in America.  That   
   is 15   
   > million people per decade, and 60 million people in 40 years.  In the 13   
   years of   
   > K-12, that is 19.5 million people x $12,000 per pupil for K-12 =   
   $234,000,000,000   
   > per year.  In 5 years, that's over $1 Trillion extra spent.  In a decade, $2   
   > Trillion, in 5 decades, $10 Trillion dollars.  On K-12 alone.   
   >   
   > It's far cheaper to abort.  Let us pay $1,000 Federal dollars, to any doctor   
   who   
   > performs an early term abortion, so that any woman can just walk in and get   
   an   
   > abortion for free, no other insurance needed.  There are 2.5 million   
   unplanned   
   > pregnancies per year (not counting nearly 1 million miscarriages), and   
   $1,000 x   
   > 2.5 Million = $2.5 Billion per year.   
   >   
   > Any sane civilization begins with population planning (and sanitation).   
   >   
   > 90% of all abortions take place in the first three months, presently, anyway.   
   >   
   > There is life after death, and there is life before life.  You didn't come   
   out of   
   > a zygote.  Let us abort sanely, in the first trimester, before the fetus is a   
   > living baby, and make the world a better place.   
   >   
   > After the first trimester, you must presume somebody is going to die,   
   because the   
   > fetus may be a living baby, and somebody may die.  If an adult was   
   accidentally   
   > attached to you, and would die if you did not let them eat your body for six   
   > months, would you let them live?   
   >   
   > If two men are accidentally attached, and one will die, if detached, does   
   that one   
   > have the right to eat the other's body for six months before the second   
   detaches   
   > himself from the other?  Even if so, abortion should still be looked at this   
   way,   
   > because both individuals are living people, and one will die, and should not   
   be   
   > considered a dead corpse before detachment, thus influencing the second's   
   > decision, even if they have a right to do so.  Would you  jump into an icy   
   cold   
   > river to save a drowning baby, if you knew you might die?  Is a similar   
   question,   
   > and letting someone eat your body for six months is onerous, and there's no   
   reason   
   > to presume the mother cares about this stranger baby who is a fetus.   
   >   
   > If an adult was accidentally attached to you, and would die, if you did not   
   let   
   > them eat your body, for six months, would you let them live?  Appears to be   
   what   
   > the political/legal/moral question comes to.  And one might let that person   
   live,   
   > even if they believed in their right to not do so.   
   >   
   > But if they thought it was a dead body attached to them, obviously they'd   
   just   
   > abort.  But that's not what a baby should be considered after the first   
   trimester,   
   > because it may very well be a living baby.  Thus if it's just a dead body   
   attached   
   > to them in the first trimester, and science says there is no brain, and   
   > reincarnation memories suggest there is no ghost, then it is immoral not to   
   abort   
   > if you don't want a baby.  Just as, reckless unsafe sex is immoral, but we   
   do not   
   > condemn a mother after the fact.   
   >   
      
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