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|    What if the Unorthodox Arizona Audit Dec    |
|    30 May 21 09:35:27    |
      XPost: alt.politics.trump, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns       XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.elections       From: drooler@gmail.com              That outcome is looking more and more likely.              Sitting in the press booth at the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum in       Phoenix, several rows above where some two dozen tables of counters were       retallying the 2020 presidential votes of the citizens of Maricopa County,       Bennie Smith acknowledged something that has become readily apparent to       most outside observers of the process that has come to be known as the       “Arizona audit.”              “They’re not trying to capture an accurate count,” said Smith, a       Democratic Tennessee election official who had traveled to Phoenix to       advise the auditors. In fact, Smith said he expects the end result to be       “wildly different from the count.”              Smith said he was advising the audit—a process specially ordered by the       Arizona Senate and which began last month outside the county’s ordinary       recount system—because he hopes to see a standardization of independent       machine ballot audits of most U.S. elections. What’s going on in the       Veterans Memorial Coliseum, former home to the Phoenix Suns and commonly       used these days for gun shows and high school graduations, is not that.       Nor is it a hand recount done in accordance with the Arizona election       procedures.              Here’s how Arizona recounts are supposed to normally work: Two counters,       under the eye of a supervisor, tally ballots in batches of 10 at a time.       Their results must agree, and any discrepancies in each batch must be       resolved by a bipartisan board before they are added to the count. Here’s       what Smith had been watching inside the audit: batches of 50 ballots,       swinging around on a Lazy Susan, as three people speed-read votes in the       presidential race and the U.S. Senate race, which were won by Democrats       Joe Biden and Mark Kelly.              “Everybody’s got about three and a half seconds to watch two races,” Smith       said. For many tables, it appeared to be less time than that. If he were       on the floor trying to count ballots himself, Smith said, he believed he       would be making mistakes under those conditions. “That table is rolling,”       Smith says pointing at a particularly fast-counting group. “Me standing       there for five hours, I would not say that it would be ideal.”              To the uninitiated observer, this might seem alarming. But Smith assured       me it was nothing to worry about—because, he said, “they’re not recounting       the election.”              What were the people busily counting election ballots doing, then? Over       the course of three days in Phoenix, talking to participants and critics       and watching the event unfold, I couldn’t get a coherent answer. The       Arizona audit is a new kind of political ritual, whose purpose exists       beyond reason or consensus or fact. More than six months after Joe Biden’s       victory in the presidential election was certified by Republican officials       in Maricopa, Arizona’s largest and one of the largest in the country, this       audit is what the Arizona Senate has decided is necessary to resolve       continued accusations by the former president and his supporters that the       2020 election was stolen.              Acceptance of error—of alternative facts, as it were—is built into the       process: If two counters have the same total, but the third counter       disagrees by one or two votes, then the two matching counts become the       official tally, overruling the discrepancy. According to observers of the       audit, this happens often.              Around the audit site, the political fault lines are multiplying—not       merely between Trump supporters and Biden supporters, but between the       local Republican officials, who are responsible for election results being       verifiable and making sense, and the state Republicans, who are chasing a       myth. The irregularities in the numbers are the least of it.              “They destroyed the election,” former County Recorder Adrian Fontes said       of the Senate auditors. “And I think that they did it on purpose.”              The statement might sound like partisan hyperbole from a former elected       official with an ax to grind. But in the past week, similarly damning       calls were issued by every major Republican elected official in Maricopa       County. In a meeting on Tuesday, Maricopa County Board of Supervisors       Chairman Jack Sellers said plainly, “It’s time to be done with this       craziness,” as he and the county’s other top elected officials, who had       previously tried to work with the Republican state senators, signed a       letter calling for an end of the audit. On Thursday, the Democratic       secretary of state said that Maricopa County could no longer safely use       the voting equipment that had been handed over to the audit.              The Republican-controlled county board went along with the audit plan       initially because the Senate, Fontes said, “had given these guys       guarantees it wasn’t going to be a shit show.” Instead, the state Senate       ended up handing nearly 2.1 million Maricopa County ballots to a       previously unknown company called “Cyber Ninjas,” whose CEO has claimed       the election may have been manipulated by a firm with ties to the former       Venezuelan leader Hugo Chávez (who is dead).              “We’ve changed course,” Stephen Richer, the current county recorder who       unseated Fontes in the last election, told me of the local Republican       response.              That course correction appears to have come too late. Up close in Arizona,       it’s clear that the Cyber Ninjas are doing exactly what their CEO, Doug       Logan, has accused election officials of doing: miscounting the 2020       election. If and when that new and inaccurate result is made public as       part of an official audit report, local leaders believe the consequences       will be grave.              “I think a small mushroom cloud will go up over Maricopa County if the       Cyber Ninjas report that Donald Trump really was the winner of the       election,” Richer says.              The joke about Adrian Fontes in the Phoenix-Tempe area is that when he       rigged the 2020 election in Maricopa County, he forgot to fix his own       race. Those who have accused him of treason don’t think it’s so funny.              Just outside the audit site was a small tent of supporters holding signs       in favor of the audit. One was a banner depicting the swing states in the       2020 election as a series of dominoes, with the header “May Arizona be the       first Domino to Fall.” Another declared that the Maricopa County Board of       Supervisors “are enemies of the nation.”              I broached the joke about Fontes with some of the audit supporters around       the tent. “It’s a team effort,” said Joe Medina, a middle-aged Mexican       American Trump supporter and self-described Christian, who wore a T-shirt       with a Grand Canyon emblem. “He could be one of the fall guys.”              Medina and others at the audit site were convinced the audit is likely to       prove corruption that they are certain occurred during the 2020 election.       At that point, “justice” will demand somebody serve a prison sentence.              “Treason is a pretty bad crime,” Medina said.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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