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   Leroy N. Soetoro to All   
   Clueless moonbat AOC argues against fell   
   30 Jun 21 01:30:41   
   
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   From: democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov   
      
   https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/aoc-argues-against-sinemas-support-of-   
   senate-filibuster/   
      
   ?Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, responding to a question about Sen.   
   Kyrsten Sinema’s op-ed in the Washington Post that warned getting rid of   
   the filibuster would let the party in majority cancel out all legislation   
   supported by the opposition, argued Sunday that legislatures around the   
   world pass bills with a majority all the time and they are “fine.”   
      
   “Political systems all across the country, I mean all across the world,   
   pass legislation with majorities and they’re fine, and frankly, here’s the   
   thing, is that Democratic legislation, once enacted, is popular,” the New   
   York Democrat said on NBC News’ “Meet the Press.”   
      
   She said Democratic legislation establishing Social Security and the   
   Affordable Care Act have withstood efforts by Republicans to defeat them   
   because they have the support of the American people.   
      
   “Our job is to legislate. Our job is to help people. Our job is to do as   
   much as we can. And even if that’s the case wouldn’t it be better to get   
   people health care and voting rights for three years instead of zero   
   years,” she said.   
      
   Sinema wrote in her op-ed: “To those who want to eliminate the legislative   
   filibuster to expand health-care access or retirement benefits: Would it   
   be good for our country if we did, only to later see that legislation   
   replaced by legislation dividing Medicaid into block grants, slashing   
   earned Social Security and Medicare benefits, or defunding women’s   
   reproductive health services?”   
      
   But Ocasio-Cortez, who’s far-left positions have increasingly swayed   
   Democratic Party leadership recently, said that theory doesn’t hold water.   
      
   “I do not believe in the defeatism of saying, ‘We will lose in the future,   
   and that will automatically mean that anything we do now is going to be   
   reversed, so we might as well not do anything now,'” she said.   
      
   Progressive Democrats like Ocasio-Cortez are pressuring Senate Majority   
   Leader Chuck Schumer and President Biden to shelve the filibuster to clear   
   the way for Democrats to pass election legislation and to enact other   
   parts of the administration’s agenda.   
      
   But some moderate Democrats — including Sinema and Sen. Joe Manchin, of   
   West Virginia — oppose the effort.   
      
   The filibuster requires 60 votes to pass most legislation, meaning the   
   Democrats, which have narrow control of the 50-50 Senate, must get 10   
   Republicans to sign on to get anything passed.   
      
   By dropping it, Democrats would be able to approve legislation with a   
   simple majority – Vice President Kamala Harris being the 51st vote.   
      
   Ocasio-Cortez questioned why the Senate should stick with the 60 vote   
   threshold.   
      
   “And so, beyond that, then the argument is, Okay, why 60 votes? Why not   
   stop at 70 votes? Why not need 80 votes to pass any legislation? Why   
   defend a 60 vote filibuster, when the Senate already amplifies minority   
   power, so that the 50 Democratic senators already represent millions and   
   millions and millions more Americans than 50 Republican senators,” she   
   said.   
      
   “And so I would argue that 50 Republican senators is already a built in,   
   kind of filibuster-esque firewall,” she said.   
      
      
      
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