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   Intelligent Party to All   
   Help The Taliban Craft A New Government    
   04 Sep 21 12:51:41   
   
   XPost: fl.politics, houston.politics, tx.politics   
   XPost: alt.abortion, talk.abortion   
   From: Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com   
      
   What must the Taliban comply with in order to receive the same $5 Billion the   
   U.S.   
   has been spending over there:   
      
   1. Women have equal rights.   
   2. Freedom of religion.   
   3. Can't cut people's hands off.   
   4. Can execute only for murder and other capital crimes.   
   5. No punishment for sex or adultery (Jesus forgave it, and is part of Islam)   
   6. No punishment for homosexuality (hermaphrodites must be allowed to have sex   
   -   
   homosexuals are intersex)   
   7. In games of chance, the wagered property remains the property of the loosing   
   party (as there is no arms-length transaction, and no "consideration" given,   
   it is   
   not a legal trade).  Rather than punish, allow people to sue to recover, and so   
   ruin their faith in the notion, with a better notion.   
   8. Universities must be allowed intellectual freedom and not closed.   
   9. People have right to attire, if they are not putting others at risk, for   
   instance failing to wear a mask when within a certain distance of another for   
   COVID, or they are not harassing others.   
   10. The right to criticize the government (no country ever made progress   
   without   
   constructive criticism).   
      
   Opium production is about to go to 0%.  I don't know if there's any small need   
   for   
   it for medicine or anything.   
   It should be legal to market over the counter in the U.S. as poison, and by   
   permission medicine, both sold out of sight, out of mind, as it has the   
   potential   
   for frivolous use and abuse as a euphoric mental impediment, and should not be   
   used to euphoria, but for pain or will cause much pain if abused and is a true   
   vice and a horrible thing if abused.   
      
   Afghanistan's GDP is $20 Billion, compared to U.S. GDP of $20 Trillion.  But   
   Afghanistan is 32 Million people, compared to U.S. of 320 Million people.  So   
   the   
   U.S. is 100 times richer than Afghanistan per capita nominally, but the money   
   buys   
   3x more in Afghanistan, so the U.S. is 33 times richer _per capita_ in   
   purchasing   
   power.  Afghanistan is a 4th world country at $2,000 per capita, PPP, to the   
   U.S.'s $68,000 per capita PPP ($60,000 is 1st world, $20,000 is 2nd world,   
   $6,000   
   is 3rd world, $2,000 is 4th world, $600 is 5th world (central Africa) (the   
   planet   
   itself is $11,000 per capita buying $17,000, therefore almost 2nd world per   
   capita)).  So it's still relatively to Afghanistan as if the U.S. got $5   
   Trillion   
   per year.  Current U.S. tax revenues are $1 Trillion while the U.S. goes into   
   debt   
   $2-3 Trillion per year against both inflation and higher interest rates (To   
   keep   
   track of it, Congress sells bonds and the Fed prints money to buy the bonds if   
   it   
   wants, until there is inflation, and then raises interest rates (by dictation   
   of   
   the Federal Funds rate, and by selling bonds and deleting the money).  We can   
   only   
   finance so much within a limited period of time, including WAITERS, which   
   produce   
   NOTHING.)   
      
   The U.S. gives $47 billion in foreign aid, worldwide, per year.  Over $16   
   billion   
   of it is military aid.  The U.S. was spending about than $3.75billion in   
   Afghanistan in military aid per year, and will probably continue to spend over   
   $1   
   billion on humanitarian aid, even after the pullout, money that could be used   
   to   
   lead the Tablian if they agree to be truly holy.   
   https://foreignassistance.gov/   
   It's not it, to invade a country, and leave it in anarchy and chaos.  You have   
   a   
   responsibility.  Like "Reconstructionism" in the American South, after the U.S.   
   Civil War.  This is dependent on free and just government.  Yet our demands   
   must   
   not be too onerous and burdensome; we must be reasonable, given the context.    
   Not   
   negotiation, but not absolutism.  It's up to us.  But can they follow us?  Yet   
   if   
   they're not willing to at all, then it's not a deal.  The point is giving, not   
   control, nor being controlled.  So you have to understand the situation you're   
   dealing with, to lead, graciously.  We make *our* decisions based on reason.    
   Do   
   they have a reason why they will not follow?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Those who are   
   unwilling to follow will not be supported and lead, but you have to give them   
   something they *can* follow, so you have to understand _them_, it's a two way   
   street.  We're not madmen, but why would they be?  (Al-Qaeda and ISIL may be)   
   Vs.   
   just giving them blanket money to do evil with.  Vs. just being unreasonable   
   yourself, and there's no deal they would want.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What is   
   it,   
   that it's not diplomacy, and not negotiation?  It maybe, should be, remembered,   
   "not negotiating with terrorists," came out of 1980's plane hijackings, where   
   terrorists would hijack U.S. planes, and make demands; negotiating with them   
   would   
   no doubt lead to repeat behavior. On the other hand, sometimes countries are   
   unacceptable, and a hard-line approach is the only response.  This leads to   
   sanctions impoverishing the country, making it easier to invade in the   
   future.  Is   
   that the plan with Afghanistan?  Will a carrot lead now?  Or is a future   
   invasion   
   plan all that will ever become of this otherwise forsaken country?  It wants   
   us,   
   to have a strong U.S. ally in the area, and it wants us, to have a country like   
   Europe - as it was becoming just before - now reconciled to the Taliban, as   
   being   
   lead by a U.S. helped, Sharia perfected reformed Taliban, in the area, so that   
   whole violence war thing can be behind them.   
      
   Write your additional suggestions as to what the Taliban should include, in   
   their   
   new Jeffersonian government, if they want our $5 Billion per year here (or do   
   we   
   not want to get overzealous in our advocation?  Did I write enough above?)    
   But I   
   think the key is to be clear and simple.  We all have a right to freedom,   
   action,   
   and movement.  We all have a right to possession.  Drugs are our property, and   
   we   
   have a right to use our body and our property without violating others.  This   
   is a   
   legal scientific, and moral scientific fact, and those who violate it are law   
   breakers.  Prohibition is crime.  Whether perpetrated under Sharia, or the USA.   
   The Tablian need to understand this.  The USA needs to understand this.  It's   
   similar to Nazi prohibition of Judaism.  Regulation of commerce deals with   
   consumer and employee protections, and is largely about informing those   
   parties,   
   while they should not be employed to commit self-harm of engaging in   
   unnecessarily   
   dangerous, unnecessarily injurious, unnecessarily unsanitary, nor unnecessarily   
   painful activities, and WAITERS and WHORES produce no product, while take-out   
   is a   
   necessity, and porn stars produce movies we'll have for decades to centuries,   
   and   
   everyone should have an equal opportunity at good school, TO PURSUE A HIGHER   
      
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