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|    Re: Foetuses can be called 'unborn human    |
|    27 Aug 24 06:55:11    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>>>>>>> >>woman and her doctor only.       >>>>>>>>> >       >>>>>>>>> >You've done nothing but attempt to water down the term baby which is       >>>>>>>>> >typical of those who favor killing them in the womb.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> I support the right of a woman to decide whether to complete       >>>>>>>>> her pregnancy or terminate it. How and why she would make       >>>>>>>>> her decision does not concern me nor do I care what that       >>>>>>>>> decision is as long as she freely has the choice of either       >>>>>>>>> option.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> I consider it none of my business and something that should       >>>>>>>>> be strictly between her and her doctor.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>You approve of killing babies.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>>Not at all. I support the right of a woman to choose       >>>>>>>whether or not to have a baby.       >>>>>>       >>>>>>Which means.....drumroll please...       >>>>>>       >>>>>>You approve of killing babies when the woman doesn't want it. At       >>>>>>least admit what you stand for.       >>>>>       >>>>>All babies have been born alive.       >>>>       >>>>So when an abortion results in a child that is showing signs of life,       >>>>you would demand they treat it, right?       >>>>       >>>>       >>>>>       >>>>>I stand for exactly what I said.       >>>>       >>>>Yes you do. You have "stood by" your definition of calling a baby       >>>>whatever you want it to mean.       >>>       >>>That almost never happens, but if it is born alive it is a       >>>person with the rights and legal protection of any person.       >>>       >>       >>I suspect it happens far more frequently than you know.       >       >What you suspect is irrelevant. The facts show most       >abortions occur very early and very few occur during late       >term and most of these are based upon medical necessary.              Goal post moving noted.              >       >The earlier the procedure the less impact it has on the       >woman so only an idiot who could find an equal idiot doctor       >would have a late term abortion by choice. It would be       >easier on her to just give birth unless there was a medical       >reason involved.       >              Kill em early eh?              >       >>       >>>You seem to think it is a frequent occurrence.       >>       >>Your response to my question was rather weak. In these cases, is it       >>mandatory to save the life of the child if possible? It's a simple       >>question.       >       >The delineation is very clear. After live birth there is an       >individual with rights. Before live birth there is no such       >individual. No "child" yet exists.       >              What's your delineation? Are you one of those who try to tell us that       until the baby is fully out of the womb and cord snipped and       breathing, it's not a baby?              >For medical reasons at some point it would be much safer and       >easier for the woman to complete the pregnancy than to abort       >it. All of the gruesomely described late term abortions are       >almost always presented and pure anti-abortion propaganda       >with nothing to show they are not simply made up.       >       >I am sure there are doctors who are willing to do just about       >anything if the price is right but that is more of a medical       >legal and ethics situation than a pro-choice situation.              You manage to not answer the question put to you. Typical of those       who think killing babies is ok as long as the mother doesn't want it.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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