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   >>>>>>>>>> >>woman and her doctor only.   
   >>>>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>>> >You've done nothing but attempt to water down the term baby which   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>> >typical of those who favor killing them in the womb.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I support the right of a woman to decide whether to complete   
   >>>>>>>>>> her pregnancy or terminate it.  How and why she would make   
   >>>>>>>>>> her decision does not concern me nor do I care what that   
   >>>>>>>>>> decision is as long as she freely has the choice of either   
   >>>>>>>>>> option.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I consider it none of my business and something that should   
   >>>>>>>>>> be strictly between her and her doctor.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>You approve of killing babies.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Not at all.  I support the right of a woman to choose   
   >>>>>>>>whether or not to have a baby.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Which means.....drumroll please...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>You approve of killing babies when the woman doesn't want it.  At   
   >>>>>>>least admit what you stand for.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>All babies have been born alive.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So when an abortion results in a child that is showing signs of life,   
   >>>>>you would demand they treat it, right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>I stand for exactly what I said.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Yes you do.  You have "stood by" your definition of calling a baby   
   >>>>>whatever you want it to mean.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>That almost never happens, but if it is born alive it is a   
   >>>>person with the rights and legal protection of any person.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>I suspect it happens far more frequently than you know.   
   >>   
   >>What you suspect is irrelevant.  The facts show most   
   >>abortions occur very early and very few occur during late   
   >>term and most of these are based upon medical necessary.   
   >   
   >Goal post moving noted.   
      
   Nonsense, as we both know.  Your "suspect" is still   
   irrelevant.  It is hardly fact.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>The earlier the procedure the less impact it has on the   
   >>woman so only an idiot who could find an equal idiot doctor   
   >>would have a late term abortion by choice.  It would be   
   >>easier on her to just give birth unless there was a medical   
   >>reason involved.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Kill em early eh?   
      
   Terminate the process early to reduce the physical impact on   
   the woman involved.   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>>You seem to think it is a frequent occurrence.   
   >>>   
   >>>Your response to my question was rather weak.  In these cases, is it   
   >>>mandatory to save the life of the child if possible?  It's a simple   
   >>>question.   
   >>   
   >>The delineation is very clear.  After live birth there is an   
   >>individual with rights.  Before live birth there is no such   
   >>individual.  No "child" yet exists.   
   >>   
   >   
   >What's your delineation?  Are you one of those who try to tell us that   
   >until the baby is fully out of the womb and cord snipped and   
   >breathing, it's not a baby?   
      
   Exactly.  That was the historical definition.   
      
   >   
   >>For medical reasons at some point it would be much safer and   
   >>easier for the woman to complete the pregnancy than to abort   
   >>it.  All of the gruesomely described late term abortions are   
   >>almost always presented and pure anti-abortion propaganda   
   >>with nothing to show they are not simply made up.   
   >>   
   >>I am sure there are doctors who are willing to do just about   
   >>anything if the price is right but that is more of a medical   
   >>legal and ethics situation than a pro-choice situation.   
   >   
   >You manage to not answer the question put to you.  Typical of those   
   >who think killing babies is ok as long as the mother doesn't want it.   
      
   All babies have been born alive.   
      
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