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From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net
"Chris Engstrom" wrote in message
news:FaHzO.87673$FUV7.55798@fx15.iad...
> On 8/28/2024 4:15 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:05:06 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/27/2024 2:11 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 8/27/2024 2:03 PM, Attila wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:35:03 -0600, Just Wondering
>>>>> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>>>>>> The fact that any of them even exists shows that fetuses
>>>>>>>> are unborn humans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one questions the species involved - simple DNA proves
>>>>>>> that. The issue is at what point an individual human being
>>>>>>> comes into existence. Historically it has never been prior
>>>>>>> to live birth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Historically you are wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The laws involving a fetus and a born child prove you wrong.
>>>>> After birth a child can inherit, be a tax deduction, be
>>>>> counted in a census, own property, be a citizen under the
>>>>> proper laws, and need a passport, again under certain laws
>>>>> in certain locations among other things. None of this can
>>>>> apply to a fetus.
>>>>>
>>>> There's your problem. You write of statutes. I speak of
>>>> biological reality.
>>>
>>> There is no "biological reality" about whether a fetus is a person. And
>>> personhood, not "human life" or "unborn human" is the debate.
>>
>> Actually you avoided the use of the term "baby" which is the term
>> we've been discussing from the beginning. Why is that?
>
> Because neither a developing fetus nor an embryo is a "baby." And neither
> one is a person.
So then if you punch a pregnant woman in the belly and cause a miscarriage
then it's just simple assault and wasn't really murder?
If you're going to come up with a standard, then we should see some
consistency in the law as to it's application.
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