XPost: alt.abortion, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
XPost: sac.politics
From: NoBody@nowhere.com
On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:37:07 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
wrote:
>On 9/7/2024 6:21 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:13:46 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/6/2024 12:01 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2024 11:36 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2024 10:22 AM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2024 9:41 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>>>>> Also, Congress is permitted to enact legislation that takes the
>>>>>>> issue away from the states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where in Article II of the Constitution is Congress granted that power?
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean Article I. It's the Necessary and Proper Clause bringing into
>>>>> execution the Commerce Clause which permits Congress to regulate
>>>>> economic activity which substantially impacts interstate commerce
>>>>> (Gonzales v. Raich, 2005). Abortion services are economic activity.
>>>>
>>>> You're right about Article I not II.
>>>> The Necessary and Proper Clause is not a grant of power to Congress,
>>>
>>> True. I said it was the N&P Clause bringing into execution a Commerce
>>> Clause power, not the N&P Clause standing by itself.
>>>
>>>> and anyway it's not necessary and proper for Congress to act in areas
>>>> that the Ninth and Tenth Amendments reserve to the states.
>>>
>>> You are begging the question (is abortion reserved by the 9th or 10th)?
>>
>> But YOU begging the question by claiming it can be controlled as
>> economic activity is fine? Don't forget some abortions are done at no
>> cost. What's your justification then?
>
>Services provided at any cost, including for free, are still economic
>activity.
All you have to do is show any abortion law upheld based on your
premise. You dodged the free abortions part completely.
>
>The federal partial-birth abortion ban, passed in 2003, is constitutional.
Not under discussion.
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