XPost: alt.abortion, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: sac.politics   
   From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 02:49:42 -0400, Attila  wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:56:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   > in alt.abortion with message-id   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 9/7/2024 3:37 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 14:10:26 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   >>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 9/7/2024 1:53 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 07:32:14 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   >>>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> {snip}   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> The legislature made a tradeoff between the rights of a   
   >>>>>> (non-person) animal and a person, and came down on the side of the   
   >>>>>> animal. And, that's legally permissible.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Similarly, a legislature can also (now that Roe has been discarded) come   
   >>>>>> down on the side of a non-person fetus over the rights of a woman.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Are you saying a fetus has the same rights and   
   >>>>> responsibilities as a born individual?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Under the Constitution, no. Nonetheless, abortion can be outlawed. That   
   >>>> was the whole point of discarding Roe, and some states have done so.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It's as if you think Roe is still good law. Weird!   
   >>>   
   >>> No, it isn't but I think it should be.   
   >>   
   >>Right! Like it or not, Roe is gone. And therefore, legislatures can ban   
   >>abortion even though a fetus is not a person.   
   >   
   >True.  But that can be reversed with the proper legal steps.   
      
   Nothing like trying to remove states' rights.   
      
   Just like a good lib.   
      
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