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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "NoBody"  wrote in message   
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   > On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:13:46 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 9/6/2024 12:01 PM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>> On 9/6/2024 11:36 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/6/2024 10:22 AM, Just Wondering wrote:   
   >>>>> On 9/6/2024 9:41 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >>{snip}   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Also, Congress is permitted to enact legislation that takes the   
   >>>>>> issue away from the states.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Where in Article II of the Constitution is Congress granted that   
   >>>>> power?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You mean Article I. It's the Necessary and Proper Clause bringing into   
   >>>> execution the Commerce Clause which permits Congress to regulate   
   >>>> economic activity which substantially impacts interstate commerce   
   >>>> (Gonzales v. Raich, 2005). Abortion services are economic activity.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're right about Article I not II.   
   >>> The Necessary and Proper Clause is not a grant of power to Congress,   
   >>   
   >>True. I said it was the N&P Clause bringing into execution a Commerce   
   >>Clause power, not the N&P Clause standing by itself.   
   >>   
   >>> and anyway it's not necessary and proper for Congress to act in areas   
   >>> that the Ninth and Tenth Amendments reserve to the states.   
   >>   
   >>You are begging the question (is abortion reserved by the 9th or 10th)?   
   >   
   > But YOU begging the question by claiming it can be controlled as   
   > economic activity is fine?  Don't forget some abortions are done at no   
   > cost.  What's your justification then?   
      
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