XPost: alt.abortion, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: sac.politics   
   From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:28:23 -0700, %  wrote:   
      
   >Attila wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:15:41 -0500, "Scout"   
   >>  in alt.abortion   
   >> with message-id  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Attila"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:5psudjp8iudu337t35ua4q5pqi3hqob6b2@4ax.com...   
   >>>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:24:28 -0700, "john h."   
   >>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 9/8/2024 1:54 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 08:20:35 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   >>>>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 9/8/2024 8:13 AM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 07:57:08 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   >>>>>>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2024 4:25 AM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 00:27:33 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth   
   >>>>>>>>>>  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   >>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/7/2024 11:49 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right! Like it or not, Roe is gone. And therefore, legislatures   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> can ban   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> abortion even though a fetus is not a person.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> True.  But that can be reversed with the proper legal steps.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You are expecting SCOTUS to reverse course and reinstate Roe?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, no.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Of course not, but there could be legislation and/or   
   >>>>>>>>>> Amendments or other court cases that effectively do the same   
   >>>>>>>>>> thing.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> There can't be other court cases that apply the federal constitution.   
   >>>>>>>>> SCOTUS has spoken and all other courts are bound by their decision.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Sigh.  Another SCOTUS case of course.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> WTF? You just said "of course not" to whether SCOTUS will reinstate   
   >>>>>>> Roe,   
   >>>>>>> and argued that *other* court cases can do the same job. What *other*   
   >>>>>>> SCOTUS court cases are you talking about?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, there can be legislation by Congress that forbids the states   
   >>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>> banning abortion (even though you said Congress can't do that).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I am not an attorney.  I will not argue specific laws   
   >>>>>>>> because I am not qualified to do so, and neither your   
   >>>>>>>> opinion or mine will impact legal procedures.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> And of course there are several drugs available.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what happens to you, but is illegal in Alabama to mail,   
   >>>>>>>>> receive or use these drugs for abortions.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I doubt that will survive a court challenge.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Roe is wrong. SCOTUS said Alabama can ban abortion.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> At this point I am torn between whether you are an idiot or a troll.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Neither,  I simply support anything that would reestablish   
   >>>>>> the right of a  woman to decide whether or not to terminate   
   >>>>>> her pregnancy.  Not being an attorney I don't know what   
   >>>>>> legal path would be necessary.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Abortion is a political red herring.  Women have been killing babies and   
   >>>>> themselves for centuries.  In modern times, it's used for ethnic   
   >>>>> population control.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In some locations, yes.  Not in the US.   
   >>>   
   >>> The numbers for abortions could tend to suggest otherwise.   
   >>>   
   >>> Location: United States   
   >>> White: 30%   
   >>> Black: 42%   
   >>> Hispanic: 22%   
   >>> Other: 5%   
   >>> Total: 95%   
   >>> (I'm assuming the other 5% weren't reported.)   
   >>>   
   >>> https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abo   
   tions-by-race/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Lo   
   ation%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D   
   >>>   
   >>> US Population   
   >>> White: 59.3%   
   >>> Black: 12.6%   
   >>> Hispanic / Latino: 18.9%   
   >>> Other: 7.3%   
   >>>   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> I would suggest abortion has much more of an economic   
   >> component than a racial one.  Children are expensive.   
   >>   
   >not if you don't have any   
      
   Not to worry.  You're paying a bunch of money for someone else's kids   
   too.   
      
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