On Jan 21, 10:03 pm, Blair Leatherwood 
wrote:
> John W. Kennedy wrote:
> > On Jan 20, 11:29 pm, Blair Leatherwood 
> > wrote:
> >> Was anyone else disappointed that there was no mention whatsoever of The
> >> Outer Limits?
>
> > Who was the auteur of "The Outer Limits"? I haven't the foggiest, and
> > I think that's the problem. You can talk about the show's individual
> > episodes, but, apart from the cheesy "Control Voice" shtick, what
> > identity did the show ever have?
>
> > If I were producing "Pioneers", I would more likely have looked at
> > "Science Fiction Theater".
>
> The producers of Pioneers have an odd way of looking at things, to put
> it mildly.  The first series of episodes had much the same kind of
> scattershot history and peculiar emphases.
>
> I'd not heard of Science Fiction Theater until you mentioned it (a bit
> before my viewing memory, and never available since as far as I can
> tell).  I looked it up on IMdB, and it looks like they were indeed
> trying to do something interesting--any ideas on the quality of it?
>
> As a bit of personal history, Outer Limits was one of the first shows I
> have vivid memories of watching first run (at the age of 7!).
>
> Don't misunderstand my original post--I knew going in that this was
> going to be ST, LiS and TZ.  I was simply surprised that there were no
> name checks of any prior shows (Outer Limits and, now, SF Theater);
> likewise, no name checks of successors.  I've always hoped that the
> Pioneers series would provide a more coherent context for their
> selections, but I guess that's just wishful thinking.
>
> I was never sure if the pioneers were the shows or the creators, and I
> don't know if the producers of the series are clear on that, either.
>
> Of course, I will probably be watching the other episodes...
I think they mean everyone involved, regardless of who, for any given
show, especially if they were responsible in some major way for
shaping the direction of the television genre. That means actors,
writers, directors etc. In this particular episode for instance,
Shatner was highlighted, along with Gene Roddenberry and Rod Serling,
because all were influential to the medium, although more attention
was given to Serling and Roddenberry in a sense, because they actually
formally shaped the direction of their shows. Shatner worked with what
Roddenberry gave him to work with on "Star Trek", so in his own way,
he helped steer that show in a particular direction at times, and was
therefore creatively involved in putting together what ended up being
the final result of a scene or episode.
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