On Sat Jan-23-2016 10:25, mark lewis (1:3634/12.73) wrote to Roger Nelson:

 ml> 23 Jan 16 07:08, you wrote to Damon A. Getsman:

 RN>>> Not allowed.

 DAG>>   Wait wut?
 DAG>> Isn't this like Odyssea Fringe Research or something like that? I
 DAG>> thought it was a house for all of the tinfoil theories.

 RN> No, it isn't.  Where did you get that idea?

 ml> most likely from the BACKBONE.NA... the BACKBONE.NA file is created
 ml> from the initial request to carry the echo on the backbone... the
 ml> BACKBONE.NA is not, TTBOMK, updated automatically from the
 ml> echolist... the current BACKBONE.NA file, 2015-Oct-29, contains the
 ml> line

I see.  However, my main interest in updating the area listing is in the
ELIST.  That's where the latest info is.  I don't know who does the updating
of BACKBONE.NA, but it is wrong.  I routinely post the updates in the echo
when I submit them and the robot replies.  To wit:

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 Echolist Announcement ...

 BAMA
      Science Research Echo
            Science Events.
           Status: Active
      Origin:       1:3828/7                          Group: FIDO
      Distribution: Z-1 Backbone
      Gateways:
      Language:     English
      # Nodes: 500          Volume: 115/mo        Rules: BAMA.RUL
      Flags:  [Has Rules]
      Notes: /REAl
      Moderators:   Roger Nelson, 1:3828/7, rjnel@bellsouth.net
      Last changed: 18-May-2015 by Roger Nelson, 337:1/21, "Roger Nelson"
 

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The above is an old one, but this hasn't been what you quoted below for many,
many years.  This is an echo where I post Space Weather and artricles I
receive from NASA and nothing more.  Note the absense of the word "Fringe".  I
got away from that stuff years ago.

 ml> BAMA                Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo

 ml> numerous systems use the BACKBONE.NA style files to create all
 ml> their message areas from... they import their .NA files and the
 ml> descriptive names, which are taken from the echolist's long title
 ml> for each area, become the areas' names... this really should be
 ml> changed a bit so that the echotags are the areas' names and the
 ml> long titles are used as the areas' descriptions... but that won't
 ml> help the problem of an echo changing its long title in the echolist
 ml> and the various .NA files not being updated or even that BBSes can
 ml> some how update their message areas' descriptions automatically
 ml> when the long title changes... 


 ml> since at least 1997-Sep-01 up to 2008-Aug-31 the long title for the
 ml> BAMA area was

It should not have appeared that way in the ELIST.

 ml>   Odyssey Fringe Science Research Echo

 ml> in the current echolist, the long title for the area is

 ml>   Science Research Echo


 ml> the question now is how to get it updated in the BACKBONE.NA file
 ml> and on all the BBSes that carry the area that are using the long
 ml> title as the area's name... 

That's a good question.  I should have the answer in a couple of days.


Regards,

Roger 
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